Friday, May 8, 2015

Keeping The Vigil

By Ralph Cipriano
for Bigtrial.net

About two dozen spectators, mostly family members and supporters of the defendants, spent the afternoon camped in the hallway outside Courtroom 15A.

Meanwhile, behind closed doors, the jury in the rogue cops case sent two questions to Judge Eduardo C. Robreno that prompted some sparring among the lawyers.

"Hey, hey, hey," the judge yelled at the lawyers, to get them to calm down.

The first jury question on the second day of deliberations asked if all the charges in the case are interrelated, or whether they all stand alone.

The second question involved Episode #17 of the indictment, where Officers Thomas Liciardello, Brian Reynolds and John Speiser allegedly stopped a person identified as "L.S." near 38th St. on Aug. 14, 2010, and confiscated a total of $1,100 in cash.

The indictment charged Liciardello with attempting to "conceal the theft from authorities" by writing a police report that said only $507 had been seized from L.S. "To conceal the theft of the additional $593 from L.S., defendant Liciardello falsely stated in the report that Jeffrey Walker had made an undercover purchase of Endocets from L.S. when Liciardello knew that was not true," the indictment stated.

L.S. would appear to be drug dealer Leonard Sammons. On April 23, Sammons was unsteady on his feet and reeked of alcohol when he strode to the witness stand to testify on behalf of the government.

Sammons told the jury that in August 2010, he drove out to the Hess Gas Station at 34th and Grays Ferry carrying 182 Percocets and $1,100 in cash. At the time he was driving, Sammons told the jury he had also been drinking a half pint of Grey Goose vodka.

That's when he was accosted by the defendants, Sammons testified.

"They told me to get the fuck out of my car," Sammons said.

Licardello, Sammons said, put him in handcuffs. Then, Officer Walker swore out a false statement that claimed he had bought 182 pills from Salmons for $600, Sammons told the jury.

When he saw a mug shot in court of Officer Walker in dreadlocks, Sammons shouted, that's the guy. "I never sold to him in my life."

When the jury filed into the courtroom today, the judge told them, "I have your questions."

On the first jury question of whether the charges in the case are interrelated or do they stand alone, the judge referred the jury to three different paragraphs in his written instructions.

The paragraphs, which the judge read out loud, said that the charges in the rogue cops case proceeded from an alleged RICO conspiracy, although in the indictment, individual defendants are also charged with individual offenses.

The number of charges against any one defendant has nothing to do with the relative guilt or innocence of the defendant, the judge said. The judge instructed the jury to consider each charge separately, and he reiterated that every charge had to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

Regarding Episode 17 and the charge of attempting to conceal a theft from authorities, the judge said Liciardello would be guilty if the jury found that the officer wrote a false report that said a phony amount of cash had been seized from the drug dealer.

Liciardello would also be guilty of attempting to conceal a theft if the jury found that the officer had falsely stated that Walker made the undercover buy if Liciardello, who never took the stand, knew it wasn't true.

"Either is sufficient," the judge said, if the jury found that Licardello had committed either act "with intent to impede the investigation."

Besides the legal questions, spectators were left to ponder the jury's demeanor.

During closing arguments, some jurors had glanced at family members in the spectator seats. Some jurors at times were also observed dabbing their eyes during emotional closing statements from a half-dozen impassioned defense lawyers.

Today, however, the jury seemed to be all business and kept their eyes riveted on the judge.

The jury sent another note to the judge saying they wanted to go home at 4:30 p.m.

When he dismissed the jury for the weekend, the judge said that deliberations would resume at 9 a.m. Monday.

155 comments:

  1. Tommy L. Is getting found guilty for sure

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    1. When he went to school he got bullied and when he got his badge he got bullied? LOL! I think you're the phycho. JMO!

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  2. relax sweetpea, this jury has listened to hundreds of hours of testimony, 10 hours of closing arguments, hundreds of exhibits, and confusing instructions from the judge. Of course they are going to have questions.

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  3. Lol. The judge basically said Thomas is GUILTY

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  4. That's not what the judge said at all if you have been following the entire case and understand the instructions of how they have to be charged you would know why they were asking that.
    6 NOT GUILTY VERDICTS ACROSS THE BOARD.

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  5. if there were referees out there in the street of cops and drug dealers,Tommy and the five crooked cops would have been penalized so many times.the referee would have thrown the flags so many times, because you do not lock up drug dealers steel the money, jewelry,and show up for court for the overtime give the drug dealer a lot of time in jail, that's a foul,the rules are you do not show up in court, keep the money and drugs, but No, tommy was too greedy, he knew watching him, in my world that is the time to stop, but the greedy f*** with his legitimate cops pay, it was making a hundred thousand a year,if Tommy had a friend and he does not. his friend would have went to him and said cool it the feds are watching ,but no use people like the money,somebody should have a sit down with them

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    1. WTF are you talking about??????.

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    2. Hes talking about the truth man. Tommy js a friggin crook. You his wife or girl or brother or something? What you cant believe tommy F'd up by being dirty? So i guess the whole underworld just picked tommy to pick on huh? Get a life dude. Tommy and those other narcs knew the deal. They got caught and if not all of them one or some of them have to pay. Get REAL!!!! PUNK COPS ARE GUILTY.

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    3. Yea cause you know what's going on in the underworld. Take your own advice and get real the prosecution has nothing because they are innocent. But hey let's listen to a dirty cop and an army of drug dealers that would get off seeing these guys go away.

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  6. I am talking about the streets and how it works,I it is an analogy, a metaphor, do I have to come down to your level, oh that's right to become a cop all you need is your GED, lol a big fat lol. the way I see the trial 5 guilty one not guilty, john spiser not guilty

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    1. No, I think you're going to have to come up a few levels. Oh, and on your way up...please follow the FACTS of the case before commenting dumb shit, Thank You.

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  7. Jim g, it's not even worth trying to figure it out, I knew there were idiots in this world before I knew of bigtrial but reading the comments on here, these morons really blow me away. Let's see what they can come up with after a Not Guilty Verdict.

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    1. It is really exhausting and amusing at times, to figure out what some of these nit wits are trying to say. I get dumber but the second just reading it.

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  8. Praying for not guilty on Monday

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  9. Monday is the day! Not Guilty!

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  10. Monday there families will be crying an see how it feels just like all the peoples families felt when there loved ones were taken away by these crooked cops

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    1. You mean the drug dealers who were breaking the law? The cops were doing their jobs it's jackasses like you that make cops not want to do their jobs right because of the stupidity. Der I was breaking the law the cops who arrested me for doing so need to be put in jail because they were doing what they were supposed to do. Idiots

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    2. True that 5:25
      You're an idiot 10:28

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  11. Tommy will be found guilty then he'll Snitch on his boys.

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  12. Someone please explain how the informants or drug dealers were credible witnesses when they helped Tommy and the squad arrest other people?But now are not credible enough to be believed against the cops.

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    1. I'm not sure what there is to explain? If an informant or a drug dealer does not set up another buy for the police, then the drug dealer goes to jail. If the buy happens and their supplier gets arrested, the informant gets off because they gave up someone else. In this case, the drug dealers are making false accusations because they want the amount of money they receive from their civil suit to triple so they need to have the officers found guilty. The drug dealers actions are only done to help themselves.

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  13. We the people must be held to a higher standard then our Police!!

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  14. One is everything was recorded times documented on drug buys with info from the snitch.s and evidence seized and before any one used info from the snitch.s it was all checked out so they weren.t in danger during surveilance and drug buys. As for these snitch.s they made a deal when approached by the feds because someone had a hard on for these 6. Then in the 6 yrs of federal investigation they got nothing but storys that both the feds desperately tried to rehearse but these idiots could.nt remember the stories. So they made up there own based on there rights were violated and money taken so on and so on. But yet they were still convicted . If these idiots rights were violated why were there cases not thrown out i can go on and on.
    But you don.t wanna here the truth.So ill tell you a lie instead when these guys get found Not Guilty you.ll be set free and your sentences terminated. Oh ya those other dealers you Snitch.ed on there ok with that no repercussions forswting them up.

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    1. Set them free post in response to another anonymous 10.46.
      Correction above for setting them up

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    2. People seem to forget although people rat, it does not make those tied to them any less guilty; it's all crime

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  15. Every case these crooked cops had were thrown out and sentences were overturned so obviously they ain't as innocent as everyone on this site thinks.

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    1. Some of these idiots who testified did so trying to get reduce sentences so some of them case stood

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  16. Having followed this entire trial, I believe these cops are guilty. Not to say the witnesses are innocent, they are all scum and guilty as well. That being said, it does not give the cops the right to steal from them and for that they belong exactly the same place those drug dealing low lifes are. I feel sorry for the cops that go out and risk their lives to protect people like myself and my family everyday that get a bad rap due to the greed of these 6 men that couldn't keep their hands out of the cookie jar.

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    1. I'm not sure that you were following the correct trial. There needs to be evidence that proves that anything was stolen. Evidence was not a part of this trial.

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    2. What about the supervision . Lt.Largo and Sergeant one more for the road McCloskey . He has his own stool at the FOP . John McNesby will put a brass plate on it . It will read Shots McCloskey sat here ,when He should have been on the street ,watching the prince of the City Little Tommy play cop and dealers .

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    3. I heard McCloskey is beer man .

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  17. Lt .Licaridello and His gang blame Walker for all the robbery's and shake downs , Lt Largo and Sergeant Rum dumb also said walker was the one .Where was the squad on religious retreat .

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    1. They were helping the sisters of the poor .

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    2. Sergeant Bottles and Lt .Largo are next Tommy will give them up .He will make a deal .

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  18. Mr.Bubba is praying for everybody in the gang . Mr. Bubba has lots of friend that want to meet the gang .Mr. .Bubba what a stand up guy . If you guys are lucky and get to stay at Mr.Bubba house ,you will be taking care of .I hope you guys like to play games . I hope nobody is allergic to Vaseline ?

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  19. One thing for sure the narcotics is standing up to its reputation . Its still corrupt . Speaking about reputation what about Chief inspector Boyle being replace by Chief Inspector Werner . Werner AKA just call Me Wireman . Chief Inspector Boyle when is He going to get some balls . Little Tony did Commissioner King Ramsey put you in short pants . When are you going to act like a Tony . Stop being a cry baby and speak up . Your last page on your email Tony says it all . We are waiting Tony !!!!!!!!!

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    1. Tough Tony Boyle no guts .He was told by Deputy Commissioner 400lb Christine Coulter shut up ,or she will sit on Him . How did she ever pass a physical being so heavy Tony ? You should have put that in your email .She is a disgrace to look at in uniform . She looks like She spent Her career in dunking donuts .

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    2. How many Tahoe frames did she crack? Auto shop has tales.

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  20. Stop it with the weight .Deputy Commissioner Coulter may look heavy . She is in great shape ,She does not take a good photo sad to say .

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    1. Try using a wide lens, like the ones they use to take pictures of elephants .

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    2. for your information Deputy Commissioner Coulter is on a diet . You do not have to be in good shape to be a deputy Commissioner ,She has brains . Maybe you should tell your buddy Tony Boyle stop complaining , just bend over and take it like a man .You were replace by a Man who has integrity Chief Werner .

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  21. Why does the city give Physicals to promotional candidates ? When somebody like Christine Coulter gets promoted .What example does that say to Police officers .

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  22. That they need to gain a little more weight?

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    1. You are right She is Huge .Richie Ross looks like the thin man next to Her . All She needs is a apple in Her mouth JB .

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    2. Police Officer who stay in shape and take pride in themselves ,look at Her and say why even give a physical . The physical is fix ,no way can she pas a Physical weighting 400 lbs . She is a walking train wreck .

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  23. This sounds like more then reasonable doubt to me. There is no way a jury could know what Liciardello knew and didn't know in episode 17.

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  24. Well trial is over except for verdict. And everybody wants change in the PPD. See Narcotics is just one of many divisions in the ppd. To blame these 6 for the problems in the departmemt is ludicrous. It goes way beyond them. The problem starts from the top. You have brass that have been in charge for many yrs. And the gap between new recruits and old officers is huge. But the things that worked on the street in the old days don.t work today. The safety issues are the same if not better but the bosses don.t go to seminars to familiar them selves with new technology. But there street smarts for hrs on the job are priceless. The patrol officers if they follow proper protocol they.ll be ok. The problem is chain of command you have antiques who are in position because of Seniority and all they worry about is numbers and politics no matter what division your in. Start pushing for more numbers the gray area gets a little more cloudy and you end up policing the police instead of yhe crooks. What nerds to happen is change at the top starting with the commissioner . I don.t agree with politics in police work but thats my opinion. Start with commissioner Charles Ramsey and his cronies. Then you hire from within the Police dept because they care about the city and know the problems and the trouble areas and what the people want. What it say when fine police officers can take the hits and the bullshit that goes with it but aren.t good enough to hold the title of Commissioner in the city they work. I say thats bullshit im sure there are several qualified Gentlemen to hold that honor. And once he.s chosen then he cleans house and picks his staff. The others resign or get dismissed. If the union don.t like it you replace them with those who do. Its not perfect but you gotta start some where

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    1. Ps the next Mayor of the City of brotherly love might wanna take notice.

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  25. I see all the intelligent anonymous dealers and cops are posting today. English and Grammer right up to par i see and all together after seven wks you still think a guilty verdict is coming amazing. God for bid if it was your sorry asses on the line ill bet you would have a different opinion. But ill give you guys and girls credit might be a first for law enforcement and drug dealers wanting the same verdict and if that is.nt sad i don.t know what is. With that said. YOUR HONOR WE THE JURY FIND ALL SIX DEFENDENTS NOT GUILTY ACROSS THE BOARD. !!!!!!!!!"!!""""

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    1. That last sentence is music to my ears.

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    2. JB stop it you know they are crooks .Do you think the rest of us in the unit can stand Tommy . He is a nut case .You guys went along with Him, now you guys will take a ride a ride with Him . Next will be Largo and Rum Dum they need to go .

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  26. I'm praying !!

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  27. Hey...we are all on here going crazy.
    Listen...if tommy and his crew broke the law they then the jury will find him guilty. And if the 6 ex narcs did not break any law they will be set free. But why as humans do we come to hate each other over difference of opinions?
    We stoop to calling each other racial slurs and whats obvious is no one (im guessing) on this blog are the ones facing jail time although some here claim to have been victims. God is good and the God i believe in is merciful and just as forgiving. So lets pray for all to turn out well for both sides.

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    1. I agree and well said, however think it's more the nature of some peoples options on this site and the reasons behind their options, it gets annoying to see people writing GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY when it's clear by their comments that their option is strictly based on their relationship with these men and not the actual facts of the case, someone's not guilty of theft and kid napping, robbery and lying just because they caught me selling Drugs and sent me to jail, or because they are a better cop then I could ever be so I'm jealous -Everyone of course is In Tilted to their own options and of course some of us can get carried away defending whatever side we feel we are on in this case I do agree that God is good and that the truth will come out of this case by its verdict. In my eyes that verdict would be hands down NOT GULITY across the board.

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    2. Stop the bull M.T. everybody knew and so do you .Little Tommy is a pscho . He was bullied when he went to school .When He got His badge ,He became the bullied . He was a midget with a badge , He should have never went on the police force .

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    3. The only thing we are praying that pscho Tommy , never gets to abuse anybody with His badge

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    4. Awww, did Tommy put you in your place at one time? You are making yourself look like you're on a witch hunt. Hmmm, do you work for the prosecution?

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    5. This tommy was a scrawny little picked on closet fag from the time he was a kid. Anyone that knew him growing up would agree. He thought becoming a cop wouled erase all those memories of sitting on his step like a girl when all the kids were playing ball up Sartain street. He became a dirty cop like his dad was, the whole neiborhood knew he was dirty too. I guess it was different being dirty under rizzo than it is now a days. He's absolutly guilty. Anyone that knew him from when he was a kid would bet their lives on it.

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  28. Officers in the New York City police and New York State police departments were convicted of falsifying drug evidence”  Heads of these agencies were later czar and chief of the Drug Enforcement Agency(McNamara, Joseph. “Why cops lie about drug evidence”).  Corruption in the police force is not a new topic of discussion.  It has been around since the beginning.  To look only seventy years back into the 1920s and the 1930s, one can see many incidents of police looking past prohibition violations for a payoff.  Officer Frank Serpico’s New York Department was involved in falsifying drug evidence and it went unchecked until Officer Serpico testified for the Knapp Commission.  In his last few statements, he cautioned the commission that the only way to prevent police corruption was to have an ever-present commission looking over the shoulders of local departments.  They did not heed his words and now we are in the height of police corruption. “Reuter News Service reported in December 1994 on the latest charges of police abuse in New Orleans, Louisiana.  Nine New Orleans police officers were arrested…and charged with protecting the storage and movement of more than 130 kilograms of cocaine…In exchange for their protection they were paid in excess of $97,000 in bribes”(“Nine Cops Indicted in New Orleans,”  Reuter News Service)

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    1. Imagine for a minute, a fifty-three-year old African-American grandmother of a suspected murderer, sitting in her house knitting.  Two police officers knock on her door to ask about her grandson.  She lets them in to tell her what she knows, like any law-abiding citizen.  Ten minutes later she is being led out to the police car in handcuffs.  She was arrested for possession of controlled substances.  Now fast forward three years when she is being released because it has been discovered that the very officers that knocked on her door planted the drugs in her home.  When asked why this woman was a target, the officers replied that they were trying to get to her son.  This happened to fifty-three-year old Betty Patterson in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  She was released in 1994.  “From 1988 to 1991, a group of four policemen in Philadelphia’s 39th district stole $100,000 from drug dealers and sent innocent people to prison”(“It was the ‘day of judgment’ for rogue cops in Philadelphia,” Associated Press). These officers, John Baird, Thomas DeGovanni, Thomas Ryan, James Ryan, and Steven Brown violated the trust the citizens put in them.  The question to answer for the citizens is how can such behavior be prevented?  

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    2. Corruption is the illegal use of legitimate authority.  Any behavior that abuses and therefore crosses the parameters of one’s power can be classified as corruption.  Corruption applied to a police force entails the robbing of drug dealers, redirecting of contraband into the personal accounts of officers, perjuring ones self to protect a corrupt officer, falsifying police reports, planting drugs to frame citizens, and a host of other misconduct that violates the oath of protecting the people.  In the 39th precinct in Philadelphia the five officers were officially convicted for lying on police reports, misappropriating drug bust funds, and framing innocent victims of drug possession.  These convictions have led to sixty overturned cases of false drug charges.  Of the victims, besides Betty Patterson, was an eighteen-year old nursing student who both plan to sue the department.  However, this sort of corruption is not exclusive to Pennsylvania, New York, and Louisiana, which suggests that there might be something inherent about police work that causes a given officer to break the law.  I submit that part of it can be attributed to officer training, and budgetary incentives.

       

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    3. Rationalizing Corruption

       

       

                  It happened in Officer Serpico’s department, it happened in the 39th Precinct, it happens in Ohio, New Orleans, Los Angeles, all across the United States.  Police take money from the drug bust and line their pockets with it.  The number of known federal, state and local law enforcement officers in prison has increased five fold from 1994 to 1998; 107 imprisoned in 1994 to a high of 548 in 1998(Nelson, Jack and Ronald J. Ostrow,  “Illegal Drug Scene Spurs Rise in Police Corruption”).  It appears that officers cannot resist the temptation to increase their pay.  They look at the dealers, they look at themselves, and then they look at the money; it becomes rational for them to have a piece of the pie.  When the U.S. President declares a war on drugs and the police are on the side of the righteous, it does not take a big leap to understand that they think it unfair for the enemy to keep all the spoils.  It is this type of thinking that police succumb to everyday.  Though they cannot be blamed for being tempted, they should be blamed for acting on those temptations.  Yet there is another rationalization that the rank-and-file officers use, budgetary incentives created by the chief.

                  Certain incentives exist for police officers to arrest more drug dealers and to plant evidence on those suspected of knowing were drug deals occur. These incentives exist in the form of supplementing the annual budget, which translates into better equipment, higher success rates in convictions, and possibly higher wages.  When the equipment manager approaches the chief about the meager amount of funding in the budget allotted for equipment, and the chief retorts that he expects it to be made through drug busts; there exists a tremendous incentive to seize drugs contraband, legally or not.  Consider a simple analogy.  In high schools, teachers hand out detention assignments to students that misbehave.  Teachers use their discretion in deciding who gets detention and for what rule breach.  This discretion is at times based on the teacher’s mood.  Now imagine that there existed a monetary incentive for assigning detentions.  The number and rate of students receiving detentions would increase dramatically. At first, based on real rule violations, no matter how miniscule, and then, on to fabricated rule violations. Essentially, this abuse of power mirrors abuse of police power.

                  Now, officers see themselves behaving like this for the department, and they ask themselves why the department, and thus all its employees should be the only beneficiary when it is individuals that are in the trenches.  They do not disagree that the department should benefit from confiscated contraband, they just think that they should directly benefit also.  Policies like this can change perfectly honest, but insecure officers into average crooks. The challenge is to avoid such pitfalls.

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    4. The situation of police corruption, specifically policemen planting evidence, stealing contraband for their own personal accounts, and falsifying police reports, is tremendous.  I have outlined a few methods to curb the problem and firmly believe if these 6 ex phila narcs had been trained differently in the Academy and the field, screened more strictly, undergone ethics indoctrination, and were not faced with the incentive program the likelihood of them facing the situation they did, decreases tremendously.  Since corruption of this kind has existed in the police force since ad infinitum, it is conceivable that some or all of these methods have been attempted in some capacity.  Another answer, but one that I cannot construct, might be to change the entire ideology and system of policing and punishment.  That, I leave to prosperity.

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    5. And i see you copied this from where?
      Very informative but you see all these cases had something this one does.nt EVIDENCE PROVING WRONG DOING WAS NOT PRESENTED HERE AFTER 6 YRSSSSS.

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  29. My lord that was a mouth full, and very informative- however, these 6 men are and will be found NOT GUILTY. COME ON,USE YOUR HEAD PEOPLE. Almost a decade of an investigation; numerous times trying to set these men up and you came up with nothing, NOTHING, EVERY LAST ONE of your witnesses has something to gain from these men being found guilty yet they all had ZERO proof of any wrong doing and the only ONE person you put on the stand who had nothing to gain ( because he was an under cover FED when you unsuccessfully tried to set these men up) his only complaint was that they used foul langue , over almost a decade span of time- the Feds were so stuck on the corruption in this unit and guess what, You already got it, and it only took one time to set that fool walker up and catch him red handed, but you guys wanted tommy because he's "cocky" and if you "federal investigators" we're as good at your job as he was at his ( dare I call you that due to the recent show you put on of showing us all your sub par "investigating skills" ) you guys might be cocky too!
    This was a pissing match that went to far and now it's time to LET.IT.GO. You lost the match, you pissed all over your shoes and when the NOT GUILTY verdict comes out on Monday I pray that the investigators on this case, every last one of you...has to Anwser to someone for what you have done to these men, these OFFICERS.

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    1. Thanks MT for clearing that up. For some damn reason the anonymous haters refuse to understand that every witness was caught lying and that any evidence proving these 6 did anything wrong was not presented period. As for you anonymous who posted those several corrupt cases they all had one thing in common dirty police officers and audio and evidence supporting wrong doing and a paper trail.

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  30. The FBI investigation was sloppy. This is the reason (the only reason) these 6 men and other officers of the narcotics unit will be set free.

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    1. The investigation was sloppy because there was no evidence and they were trying desperately to get an indictment so they had no choice but to use false info.

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    2. Are you referring to Deputy Commissioner Coulter being sloppy . How much does the tax payers have to pay for Her 56 waist in uniform .She needs to be fired . She needs to stay out of the public view . What a slob . That was one thing Tony Boyle was right about !!!!!!!!!!!1

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    3. I heard they move Coulter office to the basement .They were afraid the third floor would cave in in .

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    4. In response to Rationalizing Corruption.

      The same can be said about the federal prosecutors, lets start at the top. The feds were handed the same mandates on crime from the legislators that wanted to get tough on crime, mandatory sentencing and an arsenal of laws from the Rico Act to the Patriot Act, created for organized crime and terrorist ,now used regularly against average citizens.

      I read an interesting little article about a former Vietnam war activists, he said looking back, he would not have called the police pigs and treated the returning soldiers so horribly. We are doing the same exact thing, the police are the first contact with our judicial system which is horribly broken.

      I am sure even hall monitors abuse their power, any time someone is give power over another, the likelihood of misconduct is great. My amazement is that the public is so ready to believe the prosecutors who have the ultimate power over all of us, no one is questioning their motives. The judges, the FBI and the IRS are all the government. The over criminalization of America is what has turned this country into the civil unrest we are seeing now. Action on the part of the legislation is needed to reform mandatory sentencing. Federal prosecutors, with the help of the media, have turned the police, politicians and unions into criminals.

      Many here have cited police abuse but just as many incarcerated individuals if called could easily prove prosecutorial misconduct. The feds also believe their corruption is justifiable .

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  31. COMMISSIONER CHARLES RAMSEY MUST GO!!!" START CLEANING THIS MESS FROM THE TOP. DON.T MELT THEM BADGES CHUCK. BOYS WILL BE BACK SOON! !!!!!
    PROMOTIONS ARE IN ORDER FOR A JOB WELL DOWN YOU ARROGENT SOB.
    NOT GUILTY ACROSS THE BOARD! !!!!!!!

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    1. Sorry for the miss spelling little early

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    2. One more day JB!
      Ramsey should be spending mothers day shinning 6 badges!!

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    3. I will agree with you ,I work in the 35th district , if I did what Captain McCloskey and Inspector Horne did ,I would be arrested . Ramsey is a fraud . One time I was call in on a 75-48 . They read the riot act about falsifying a police report . My report was accurate it . I stop somebody who was close to the powers to be . They never even apologize , They were creeps .

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    4. I am glad you survive the powers to be .

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  32. I salute those that embrace the meaning of "bond of brothers". However, these men (and others that are part of this squad that need to thank God EVERYDAY they narrowly escaped being indicted) are from innocent. I do pray for a not guilty verdict. More so for their wives and children. Also, because as much as they did wrong they also did a lot of great things.
    Let's keep in real....
    They couldn't risk the temptations.

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    1. If they gave in to these temptations, there would be some type of evidence to prove it.

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    2. By the grace of god they only passed on the temptations every time the Feds tried to set them up? Get real.

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    3. Little Tommy will be found Guilty ,Then you will see arrest . Little Tommy will drop the Hammer for club Med .

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    4. Where was Lt .Largo and Sergeant Bottles . I forgot they were at church .Walker did all the shake downs and robberies and falsifying police reports .

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    5. The great things they did remolded their home ,They bought their Girlfriends expensive jewelry . They spend money at the casino . Sometimes they even won . The Philadelphia Police department will e better off without these Bums . They are the real criminals .

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    6. They were making 120k+ a year because they worked 20 hour days. You are seriously trying to say that they couldn't have remodeled their home or went to a casino?? Jealousy is spewing out of your mouth.

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    7. Jealousy is the Finest Form Of Flattery :)

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    8. That's right Walker did all the jobs . No body believes Walker work alone , Let gey moving Mr. Bubba is waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  33. FBI did a poor job.

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  34. If Jim Kenney gets to be Mayor ,He will appoint the first Transgender Police Commissioner . Way to go Jimmy freak city !!!!!!!

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  35. I saw Jimmy Tiano following Kenney around . He was saying He knows how to handle Gay issues . He is in running for Ramsey Job . Good luck Jimmy .

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  36. Jimmy Tiano will cleaned out narcotics , He will put cross dressers in the unit .don't laugh ,did you ever see Little Tommy and His Gangs lady friends ? Talk about ugly .

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    1. Stop it Mr. Bubba does not like to hear about little Tummy's Girlfriend's .

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    2. Jimmy Tiano will make a could Police Commissioner .

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  37. I was a victim of crazy Tommy squad, I was watching the movie the Schindler list,the SS reminded me of theTommy squad,psychopath Tommy was judge jury and executioner,crazy Tommy visited me for the first time in the summer of 09, that's when my nightmare began,I am still suffering to this day,financially and mentally,I am no angel, don't claim to be, but the last time I sold drugs was in,1995.and the last time I looked at the ten commandmentsI do not recall seen anything on the stone that says thou shall not sell drugs.so it is not a God's law it is a man-made law,so I'm not a sinner, but Tommy and their squad is, because he's a thief because it says thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thou neighbor ,thou shall not commit adultery,that whole squad cheat on their wives,so there you go they broke all God's rules, and I broke none,this week, that crazy judge is going to revoke all their bails.because the verdict is going to be guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty,wait until their girlfriends come out of the hiding, I seen it happen so many times in the gangster world, when they're sitting in jail, the girlfriends come out of hiding I want money from the waves, they take them to court, you will see I know what I'm talking about they all had girlfriends! Just like the gangsters, they are no difference there gangsters with a badge

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  38. I was a victim of crazy Tommy squad, I was watching the movie the Schindler list,the SS reminded me of theTommy squad,psychopath Tommy was judge jury and executioner,crazy Tommy visited me for the first time in the summer of 09, that's when my nightmare began,I am still suffering to this day,financially and mentally,I am no angel, don't claim to be, but the last time I sold drugs was in,1995.and the last time I looked at the ten commandmentsI do not recall seen anything on the stone that says thou shall not sell drugs.so it is not a God's law it is a man-made law,so I'm not a sinner, but Tommy and their squad is, because he's a thief because it says thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thou neighbor ,thou shall not commit adultery,that whole squad cheat on their wives,so there you go they broke all God's rules, and I broke none,this week, that crazy judge is going to revoke all their bails.because the verdict is going to be guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty,wait until their girlfriends come out of the hiding, I seen it happen so many times in the gangster world, when they're sitting in jail, the girlfriends come out of hiding I want money from the waves, they take them to court, you will see I know what I'm talking about they all had girlfriends! Just like the gangsters, they are no difference there gangsters with a badge

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    1. Yeah, you're not a sinner. Keep telling yourself that Mr. Goodwin.

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  39. Mr Goodwin and Billy C its been seven wks and still duplicating your post Geez. When you were watching schindlers list and cooking meth did it remind you of the ovens in the death camps. Oh little young for that and i forgot you just sold it my bad.

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  40. Hopefully by tmrw its over there home and we can stop with the nonsense. Again Praying for a Not Guilty.

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  41.  Perjury by Police: Another reason for widespread perversions of justice is the pervasiveness of perjury. The recent District Attorney of Philadelphia once said, "In almost any factual hearing or trial, someone is committing perjury; and if we investigate all of those things, literally we would be doing nothing but prosecuting perjury cases." If these ex narcs are guilty, the defendants and their supporters would lie to save their skin to keep them from going to prison. That is assumed and even expected by the jury and the judge. But what would surprise and even shock most jury members is the extent to which police officers lie on the stand to reinforce the prosecution and not jeopardize their own standing within their own particular law enforcement community. The words of one twenty-five-year veteran senior officer of Phila. police force still ring in my ears: '...... I don't know one of my fellow officers who hasn't lied under oath." Not too long ago a prominent Common Wealth judge, when asked if perjury by police was a problem, responded, "Oh, sure, cops often lie on the stand."

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    1. Definitely a lie. I know many police in narcotics who do not lie under oath. If you don't have enough to arrest them you don't arrest period. The guy will be out there the following day you can get him with a good arrest.

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  42. Say some extra Prayers tonight BIG DAY TOMORROW FELLAS!!!!!!! Junkies and dealers say Bye Bye to your civil suits and your sweetheart deals... Jealous officers that couldn't last a day with these guys on the job say Hello to your 6 fellow officers, get ready to start blowing them like you did before all of this BS started.
    NOT GUILTY ACROSS THE BOARD TOMORROW! Time for these men to FINALLY get to put this behind them and move on with their lives.

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  43. Nice guilty verdict to start week off would be great. So that the family of these crooked cops can see how it feels now that the shoe is on the other foot.

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  44. Either way peoples civil suits would still be good cause walker plead guilty already an he was on alot of arrests.

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  45. 5/8/2015 PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Mayor Michael Nutter and Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey spoke to fellow police officers condemning the six narcotics officers on trial and refuting suggestions that corruption in the department is widespread.

    Mayor Nutter vowed he would not allow the alleged actions of “six sick scumbags” to impact the reputations of officers who risk their lives everyday.
    The majority of officers in narcotics are hardworking,not corrupt period,” Ramsey said emphatically. The Police Commissioner said he never felt such embarrasment as when the front page of the Philadelphia Daily News showed Police Headquarters wrapped in yellow crime scene tape nearly a year ago.

    “That was a big slap in the face to everybody that walks into that building that doesn’t engage in conduct like

    Ramsey and Nutter both praised a new police contract, handed down by an arbitration panel, that, for the first time, gives the Police Commissioner authority to rotate veteran officers out of the Narcotics Unit. The contract provision, they believe, an important step in their efforts to fight corruption.

    Meanwhile as of may 2015, attorneys for the Krasner Long law firm, who have already filed more than 230 lawsuits involving the indicted officers over the past two years, say they are now getting a spike in phone calls from people claiming they too were victimized. An indication, the attorneys say, that the suspects’ alleged wrongdoing may be more widespread and




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    1. And the Mayor and Commisioner still don.t get it that.s what happens in America when you put incompetent people in office that are clueless. So when the shit hits the fan blame someone else instead of doing there Jobs they were chosen to do.Leader ship starts from the Top and safe to say on there watch its been lacking for several yrs.

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    2. Krasno law firm is seeing a spike in calls because of its aggressive ad campaign towards drug dealers. They gave targeted heavily in North and West Philly claiming that they will get the drug dealers the settlement they deserve if they were arrested buy these men and even if they werent. Staff members have already left the firm because of their unethical practices. They get 40% of the settlement from the city so they are going after these cases for the money...not because they believe the officers did anything wrong.

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    3. Praying for these officers and their families for a big NOT guilty!!!

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  46. if little psycho midget Tommy, gets found not guilty I'm leaving the country, I'll be the first American sneaking into Mexico, bada bing bada boom, you're breaking my balls

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  47. Could it end up with a hung jury????

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  48. Good luck today gentleman !!!

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  49. Shivey me Timbers these lump lard heads be found
    Gulty by all means of ole yella poor ole dawg. Bury these 6 devil children and let the prince of darkness harvest these dirty vermin souls...they need not walk upon this earth with us angels. Guilty today i say GUILTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!

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  50. Today should be the day. By afternoon hoping for a Not Guilty across the board.
    Good luck Boys.

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    1. Jb....let me ask you this honestly.
      If they are found guilty will you accept the jury decisions?

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    2. Won.t be happy with it but that is the process. I personally feel the feds did.nt prove or have evidence beyond reasonable doubt. But whatever the Jurors decide they were there im going by these articles.

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    3. Thank you for your honesty jb. Thank you very much i feel the same.

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  51. Monday morning -- Here we go!!! GOODLUCK, LOTS OF PRAYERS!!! NOT GUILTY!

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  52. GUILTY AS CHARGED.....

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  53. Not sure what is more painful, getting my wisdom teeth ripped out or reading some of these insane delussional comments. I will say the latter is much more excrutiating. There are some stupid people on here. Before you respond, no I am not one of them. Drug dealers who consider themselves VICTIMS? The underworld? Devil chidren? Moving to Mexico? P.S. I dont remember Nutter calling John Street a scumbag when the FEDS were bugging his office, or his council buddy Rick Mariano after he went to prison or the council aide who was stealing social security checks from the disabled. He and RamseyARE POLITICAL WHORES.

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  54. NYC MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO ALONG WITH MAYOR MICHAEL NUTTER AND NJ GOV. CHRIS CHRISTY, spoke recently about police crime and corruption. When asked about the on going Phila. ex narcotic officers Federal trial, Mayor Nutter stated: "These ex police officers are a discrace to our Philadelphia police department. Our Federal court system are fair and unbiased and will deal with not just these officers but any other who willingly uses a police badge to commit such crimes. The city of Philadelphia holds a very high standard to those with whom we place in positions to uphold the law, and to protect and serve its community and citizens.

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    1. The mayors should not comment, anyone in public office should NEVER comment on another persons innocence or guilt, it gives the federal prosecutors more leverage over prospective jurors . Christie are you kidding, is former prosecutor, who could believe him. Who really cares what the mayors or Mr. Bridgegate have to say, use your own brain, jumping on the nation police bashing band wagon is a cop out.

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    2. And Gov Christie didn.t know about Bridge Gate. And Rev Al Sharpie did.nt work for the feds. Lol

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  55. Man I can't wait until Justice is served and these officers get found GUILTY. They are the definition of hypocrites, and now its time for the to pay the toll. If Walker is a snitch then that means he is snitching on his fellow criminals, not lying, that is what is so scary about this case, everyone knows that these six excuses for men did this crime but Walker is the bad ojne for snitching, not lying or making anything up, but he is an evil person cause he snitched on a fellow cop. Police stick together I get it, but when is enough enough, I mean will they ever call each other out for their pathetic behavior. I mean just look at taht tape in S.C where the cop killed the black guy for no reason, the other (black ) cops helped him hide what happened immediately without asking any questions, are all Police SHEEPS? Please help us from these evil police, I always thought the police would help protect us, but now I am starting to believe that they will never protect us from their own and I am scared for the future.

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    1. I think the same way you do, you are so right, thanks for putting it that way,I want to thank you for your statement because sometimes I think I'm going crazy, and that I'm the only one that thinks that way, you are so right on what you said,I have already told my kids on the way to deal with police, do not get fresh with them, keep your hands on the steering wheel, other than your name rank and serial number, do not make any other statements till I get a lawyer there, repeat do not make any statements to police,! thank you again buddy

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    2. I think the same way you do, you are so right, thanks for putting it that way,I want to thank you for your statement because sometimes I think I'm going crazy, and that I'm the only one that thinks that way, you are so right on what you said,I have already told my kids on the way to deal with police, do not get fresh with them, keep your hands on the steering wheel, other than your name rank and serial number, do not make any other statements till I get a lawyer there, repeat do not make any statements to police,! thank you again buddy

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    3. Why would your kids need a lawyer when they come in contact with police, you passing down the family meth lab business to them Mr Godwin? That's very nice of you.

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    4. I can.t believe this Goodwin kid is still walking around what a fucking idiot

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    5. Still walking around JB, nothing ceases to amaze me after 7 weeks when it comes to the things people will comment on here . Me Goodwin is still walking around....down town outside of Court -because he got thrown out of the court room a few weeks ago. Remember that Mr Goodwin???

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    6. Mr* Goodwin** is still walking around

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  56. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid."

    Good luck to these six brave men.

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    1. lol you're a joke. These six cowards are going to Jail and I for one couldnt be happier. They deserve every moment of torture that they get. They are the worst of the worst using their police position and badge for crimes.

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    2. you are so right!!it could not be said any better, I think these pro not guilty people were making money from these coward crooked cops.

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    3. 12;17 yes you figured it out! Congratulations. These 6 men were robbing drug dealers and then paying people to have their back and be their friends with the money.
      Please let this be the last day for this. These comments are getting dumber as the days pass.
      NOT GUILTY BY DINNER TIME.

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  57. Anyone hearing anything on the verdict?

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  58. Let's review:

    Testifying for the government: A dirty cop who got caught red-handed in an FBI sting operation walking out of a drug dealer's house with $15,000 and five pounds of marijuana. The drunk who showed up loaded at work, dozed off during stake-outs, and forgot where he left his gun. The thief who has admittedly lied on the stand dozens of times and convicted innocent people. The liar who cut a deal with the government, which depends on the testimony offered during this trial. But he's telling the truth.

    Also testifying for the government: A bunch of drug dealers full of outrageous stories and outlandish accusations.

    Meanwhile, over at the defense table sit six police officers Arch-criminal masterminds who knew how to placate the department brass with headline-grabbing busts while they beat and robbed drug dealers. Amoral, ruthless bandits with a badges so slick they supposedly knew how to hide the booty from the feds, elude sting operations and FBI accountants.

    The feds, already guilty of sloppy detective work can also be faulted for bad story-telling. The sloppiness of the feds' investigation in this case has been amptly demonstrated.

    On the eve of trial, the government had to drop a couple of counts from a 26-count indictment because one of their sleazeball witnesses got busted again, and because the feds didn't do their homework in checking out another sleazeball's story.

    Mistakes were made, an FBI agent admited on the stand. The defense called several of the cops' supervisors to the stand, witnesses that the feds never even bothered to interview.

    We didn't interview one lieutenant, an FBI agent testified, because we didn't think he would tell the truth. Or as the defense suggested, maybe it was because it was only your version of the truth that you wanted to hear.

    There are plenty of other lingering problems with the prosecution's case. If Tommy Licardello and the boys stole $500,000 from the drug dealers, as the feds have alleged, what did they do with the money?

    There's no paper trail on the alleged booty, or undercover video or audio evidence of cops getting caught red-handed. Just the word of Walker and a bunch of drug dealers all singing in the federal choir.

    If the jury believes Walker is credible, they have to swallow his story that he's the rare thief who's so lazy he never gets around to counting the money he stole. Can anybody buy that?

    If Tommy and the narcs are the criminals the feds say they are, why didn't they take the bait in an FBI string operation the way Jeffrey Walker did? Instead, the feds rolled the cameras and came up empty; the cops didn't take a dollar of planted dirty money. What does the jury do about that?

    If the feds were so convinced the six defendants were such corrupt officers, why didn't they keep running sting operations until they caught them red-handed like they did with Walker? The federal investigation of the six defendants had already gone on for eight years. Why didn't they keep it going until they finished the job?

    All the prosecution has besides Walker is a bunch of whiny drug dealers who say they were taken advantage of. The defense has produced a bunch of superior officers who testified that those busts were legit and that the defendants were hero cops. It helps their case when there's no booty to show off on surveillance videos, or paper trails leading to secret accounts where the loot was stashed.

    With the sleaziness of the prosecution witnesses and all the holes in the case, how can a jury convict these men?

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    1. YES! YES! YES! Everyone should read your comment! I agree with you a million times over, perfectly summed up and explained. Anyone that sees this trial other then you perfectly explain above has other reasons why they want these men found guilty and the reasons are not because their guilty!
      Thank You 1:19!!!!! kudos!!!!!

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    2. Also the fact that it should have been handled internally, this too should not have been a federal case, along with Traffic Court, but that does not stop the feds from making it one. Why have internal affairs, or have ethics boards if they don't or wont do the jobs they were designed to do. With a tip off from someone usually trying to take the spotlight of themselves, and political pay backs, the feds are used to do the work these boards, with much stricter consequences. Its nice to have friends in the federal building. With a media eager to publicly humiliate and a public ready to think ill of their fellow man. Why not let the feds handle the job, Lord knows the feds never lie. Remember these are peoples lives, we are talking about, its not a game. Its called Government not GODverment Now we know where the expression "making a federal case of out something" originated. Treating people ethically and humanly across the board will get us back to where we need to be as a nation, right now we are out of control with no end in sight.

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    3. So clear they were tipped off about the sting. Why did Speiser look right into the camera and pull it out of the seat???

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    4. Are you really that stupid M.R, did you read what you wrote, if they knew they were being set up why would Speiser need to look right in to the camera and pull it out of the seat? Wouldn't he let the cameras play and show them doing everything by the books????you dumb fuck. If you were searching a car in general you look at stuff you move stuff etc etc. You people will make any excuse as to why these guys are guilty yet there is No evidence of them doing anything wrong, if the Feds thought they were so guilty all they had to do was continue to set them up and if they were that "rouge" they would have walked right in to their trap just like WALKER DID, but AFTER SIX YEARS they had NOTHING, NOTHINGG, no paper trial no video no wire taps NOTHING. Anyone with a brian knows how easy it would be to get this type of evidence after almost a decade if your saying these men did this so often and took that much money and yada yada yada. It was a shit or get off the pot for the FEDS and after they had walker they threw as much shit at the wall as they could in hopes some of it would stick. Now their covered in shit and everyone can see they Stink at the job they have done here.
      These men will walk out of that court room the same outstanding cops as they walked in.
      FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF YOUR GOING TO POST HATE COMMENTS OR "GUILTY GUILTY" at least follow it with facts you dumb fucks. I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS VERDICT.

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  59. The citizen said, "Hey police officer, I pay your salary. What do you make?"

    The police officer quietly responded, "I make myself get out of bed at 3 am to risk my life to protect your family and people I've never met. I make myself go to work on birthdays, anniversaries, nights, weekends and holidays. Tonight, I might make the ultimate sacrifice to save your life or the lives of your loved ones. I make a difference, what do you make?"

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    1. haha in thoery maybe thats true, but you chose the wrong trial to start with that BS.
      Most cops in Philly are worthless, they dont save lives, they arrest people and sometimes they get a criminal off the street, most times they lock up someone going thru a hard time in their life who made a mistake, they very rarely lock up the "bad" guys that make the streets unsafe.

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    2. Crime- noun
      an action or omission that constitutes an offense that may be prosecuted by the state and is punishable by law.
      "shoplifting was a serious crime"
      synonyms: offense, unlawful act, illegal act, felony, misdemeanor, misdeed, wrong; informalno-no
      "kidnapping is a very serious crime"
      illegal activities.
      "the victims of crime"
      synonyms: lawbreaking, delinquency, wrongdoing, criminality, misconduct, illegality, villainy; More
      an action or activity that, although not illegal, is considered to be evil, shameful, or wrong.
      "they condemned apartheid as a crime against humanity"
      synonyms: sin, evil, immoral act, wrong, atrocity, abomination, disgrace, outrage
      "a crime against humanity"
      Criminal- noun
      1.
      a person who has committed a crime.
      "these men are dangerous criminals"
      synonyms: lawbreaker, offender, villain, delinquent, felon, convict, malefactor, wrongdoer, culprit, miscreant; More
      adjective
      1.
      of or relating to a crime.
      "he is charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage"
      synonyms: unlawful, illegal, illicit, lawless, felonious, delinquent, fraudulent, actionable, culpable;
      Where in those definitions are the words "... Someone going thru hard times..."?

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    3. Considering 3:44 would even comment that stupidity- I am going to assume your comment 4:01 is going to go wayyyyy over their head.
      But well done.

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  60. Blah blah blah

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  61. No verdict today, back again tomorrow !

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  62. Anyone else thinking hung jury?

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  63. Back at it tomorrow!! i assume because we are dealing with 6 people here not just one that they have to go through more information for each person and each count against them.
    I'd bet my last dollar This verdict will be not quilty, to the person above of course a hung jury is possible but the jury is still asking questions- if they are not asking anymore questions and still have no verdict then I would assume more towards a hung jury then I would right now.
    Praying again to have this over tomorrow for these 6 men.
    Not Guilty ALL THE WAY
    Any of you bottom feeders who would like to argue other wise should definilty refer up a few comments to "anonymous 1:19" explains this case perfectly and to A T !

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  64. Anxiously waiting for a verdict. I think we may see a hung jury. The prosecution will have a chance to retry the case.

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  65. The case has many different facets. Do i believe some things did happen surely. Do i think the $ amount etc that the drug dealers said was stolen inflated yes I do. The govt star witness is pure scum. Did $ money go up the food chain in the unit. The question is did the govt prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. NO. Did i think they get convict on somethings yes. John S walks

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