Friday, April 24, 2015

Defense To Rely On Top Cops To Refute Drug Dealers

By Ralph Cipriano
for Bigtrial.net

It took four weeks for the government to finally run out of drug dealers.

After sending a parade of 15 drug dealers to the witness stand, the government this morning rested its case against six former narcotics officers accused of going rogue by allegedly  beating and robbing the suspects they busted.

The defense then began its case by calling FBI Agent Dennis Drum to the witness stand.

Defense Attorney Jack McMahon took Drum through a list of 15 superior officers and fellow officers in the case who supposedly were eyewitnesses to the various "episodes" of alleged police misconduct in the indictment. 

Drum testified that a dozen of the cops were interviewed by the feds between three and seven months after the defendants in the case were indicted on July 30, 2014. Two of the cops were never interviewed; a third refused to talk.

The defense strategy seems to be to call as many of these officers to the witness stand as possible to refute the allegations made by the drug dealers who testified on behalf of the government. The list of possible witnesses include a chief inspector, an inspector, a captain, a couple of lieutenants, a sergeant, a corporal and some fellow officers.

If the boys in blue stick together, this case is going to come down to the FBI, Jeffrey Walker and a bunch of drug dealers vs. the Philadelphia Police Department.

Jack McMahon
The day in courtroom 15A began with a parade of FBI agents to the witness stand.

After Drum testified, the defense called FBI Agent Joe Ballesteri.

McMahon asked Ballesteri about allegations made by Victor Rosario, a former West Philadelphia marijuana dealer who testified on Thursday that the defendants had allegedly stolen a $5,700 Rolex watch from him, as well as a cache of jewelry allegedly purchased from Tiffany's.

McMahon asked Ballesteri if he visited Tiffany's and was able to find any evidence to substantiate Rosario's claims.

"I did not," Ballesteri testified.

Rosario also accused the defendants of stealing $8,700 that he had supposedly just received as a deposit on a construction job from a customer. On the witness stand, for the first time, Rosario named the alleged customer.

McMahon asked if Ballesteri if he was able to find any evidence to substantiate Rosario's claim about the $8,700 deposit.

"We attempted to verify it but we've been unsuccessful," the agent said.

He wasn't the last witness on the government payroll that was called to refute the claims of the prosecution's lineup of drug dealers.

John Simmons, a prison nurse, testified that when marijuana dealer Jason Kennedy came to jail, he did not have any visible wounds. Kennedy also signed a statement saying he had not been injured by the cops, Simmons testified.

On April 2nd, Kennedy testified that one of the defendants, former Officer Michael Spicer, had handcuffed the drug dealer and allegedly dangled him over a third-floor balcony rail. Kennedy told the jury that Spicer had allegedly punched him in the mouth, pushing a tooth through his lip. Kennedy testified that he also had a huge lump on the back of his head after he he was allegedly punched by Spicer and fell backwards on a hard tile floor.

But when Kennedy checked into prison on Feb. 25, 2010, Simmons testified, the nurse filled out a form that said the drug dealer didn't have any visible injuries. Kennedy also signed a form that said he did not have any police-related injuries.

Next, the defense called Chief Inspector Christopher Werner, who showed up in uniform and with a military-style buzz cut. Werner, a 26-year veteran of the police department, was the captain of the narcotics squad during some of the alleged episodes of misconduct.

Werner was asked about the case of Javier Blanco, a heroin dealer who claimed he was kidnapped by the defendants after they caught him with 234 grams of heroin, $6,900 in cash and an AK-47 assault rifle.

The defendants say that Blanco agreed to cooperate, and that their superior officers approved putting up Blanco at a hotel where he drank beer and shot pool with his alleged captors.

Werner testified that he was one of the superior officers who approved Blanco's stay at a city hotel. The district attorney's office was also consulted, Werner said.

Was Javier Blanco held against his will, McMahon asked the chief inspector.

"Absolutely not," Werner said.

While he was a captain, Werner testified, four of his officers were shot, including one close friend. Werner testified that he would never approve of any scenario that would place officers in jeopardy, such as holding a hostile drug dealer against his will.

"I just wouldn't do it," Werner testified.

Werner was also on the scene in November 2007 when the defendants, supposedly dressed in ski masks, lifted marijuana dealer Michael Cascioli off his feet and threatened to throw him off the balcony of his apartment on the 19th floor. Cascioli testified that the cops were all dressed in black the night they raided his apartment, and that the drug dealer thought the cops were mobsters out to rob him.

Werner was in the stairwell that day the cops raided Cascioli's apartment. The chief inspector testified that none of the defendants were wearing ski masks. The cops were also wearing protective vests that said police on them, Werner told the jury.

Werner recalled seeing former Officer Perry Betts holding Cascioli up against a wall. The chief inspector said he noticed that Cascioli was tense so he told the drug dealer he could relax, they were the police.

Was Betts using excessive force, Bettts's lawyer, Gregory Pagano, asked Werner.

"No," Werner said.

On cros-examination, the prosecutor asked Werner about whether drug dealer Blanco could have voluntarily walked away from the cops holding him at the hotel.

All Blanco had to do, Werner said, was tell the cops, "I don't want to cooperate any more."

The prosecutor asked Werner how the cops could justify letting a known heroin dealer like Blanco remain on the street. A guy who had been arrested with an AK-47 in his possession, a gun that according to an arrest report contained 30 live rounds.

"It was a misstep," Werner conceded. "He should have been arrested."

Defense lawyer Jack McMahon asked if Werner was aware that the information Blanco gave the cops resulted in four other busts of drug dealers. Werner, however, told the jury that he didn't know much about Blanco's work as an informant.

The case was a long time ago, Werner said.

The defense is expected to put on its case all of next week, Judge Eduardo Robreno told the jury at the end of the day. When the defense gets through, it will probably take two days for all the lawyers in the case to give their closing arguments, the judge said. Then, after the judge gives his instructions the case will go to the jury.

The prosecution had originally planned to call more drug dealers to testify as alleged victims. But one drug dealer was dropped from the case after he got arrested again for drugs; another was dumped after defense lawyers caught him allegedly perjuring himself in other court proceedings.

The loss of the two drug dealers from the government's case was the subject of a hearing, a couple of motions to dismiss, and a loud argument in court,

In contrast, a third drug dealer identified in the indictment as "J.L." was silently dropped from the witness list without any public discussion.

In the indictment, under "Episode #5," the government charged that former Officer Thomas Liciardello and other defendants allegedly broke into J.L.'s residence on Mercer Street on Feb. 7, 2008 and confiscated $24,600 in drug proceeds and an iPhone. 

According to the indictment, Licardello allegedly authored a bogus police report that said only $8,600 in cash had been seized from J.L.'s apartment; the bogus report also didn't mention the stolen iPhone, the government charged.

J.L. was originally on the witness list but was dropped without any fanfare. The prosecution concluded its case today by not calling J.L. Surely at some point, the jury will have to be told about that.

Now that the government has rested its case, there's a few mysteries left to ponder.

In their original investigation of the defendants, how could the feds have left so many uncovered bases? How could they have not interviewed all the defendants' fellow cops, especially their superior officers, if the superiors were alleged eyewitnesses to some of the episodes and a party to some of the arrests?

Jeffrey Walker
The case, of course, will boil down to whether the jury believes Jeffrey Walker and the government's
stable of drug dealers.

The obvious problems with that strategy is that Walker is a train wreck, as one defense lawyer put it, and that the drug dealers have obvious credibility problems and factual discrepancies in their stories. And apparently no evidence to corroborate their allegations.

Another flaw in the case is that the drug dealers basically all told the same story on the witness stand over and over again, down to using the same words used to describe the alleged police behavior in the case. The cops ransacked my house, the drug dealers usually said. Except for the one guy who apparently misread the script and said his place was "ram-shacked."

There's plenty of evidence so far for a jury to convict Jeffrey Walker. He's the guy who got caught on camera in an FBI sting operation carrying $15,000 and five pounds of marijuana out of a drug dealer's house. But there's no incriminating undercover audio or video evidence against the defendants. Or any paper trail to implicate them.

Walker's going to be a continuing credibility problem for the feds.

On the witness stand today, defense lawyers took several FBI agents involved in the case through  "rough notes" of some of their 45 different interviews with Walker. With that much material to work with, there's bound to be factual discrepancies for the defense to pick on.

Such as the time Walker told the feds that when he was on the job as a cop, "I tried to be as honest as I could."

When Walker got caught planting drugs on a suspect in the FBI sting, he originally told the feds that it was the first time he'd ever planted drugs on anyone. When he appeared in court, however, Walker admitted that he'd planted drugs on people so many times he'd lost count.

Walker also told the feds, "I never stole and gave drugs to anyone."

On cross-examination, the FBI agents told the prosecutor that the statements the defense lawyers singled out were made within two weeks after Walker's arrest. The government is going to have to argue that it took a while for Walker to get around to telling the truth.

The defense will say he's still lying in an attempt to talk his way out of a life sentence.

The case resumes at 9 a.m. Tuesday.

136 comments

  1. Several HUGE problems here . . .

    FBI Agent Joe Ballesteri was questioned about the allegations made by Victor Rosario, a former West Philadelphia marijuana dealer who testified on Thursday that the defendants had allegedly stolen a $5,700 Rolex watch from him (that's already been proven to be a lie), as well as a cache of jewelry allegedly purchased for his former girlfriend from Tiffany's.

    McMahon asked Ballesteri if he was able to find any evidence to substantiate Rosario's claims. "I did not," Ballesteri testified. Rosario also accused the defendants of stealing $8,700 that he had supposedly just received as a deposit on a construction job from a customer. McMahon asked if Ballesteri was able to find any evidence to substantiate Rosario's claim about the $8,700 deposit. "We attempted to verify it but we've been unsuccessful," the agent said.

    Are you kidding me!! How the hell do you indict men on charges when you cannot verify that any of the information is true!!!

    FBI Agent Denis Drum testified that the FBI interviewed about 12 of the cops who were eyewitnesses to the alleged police misconduct in the indictment. The problem is these twelve police officers were interviewed by the feds between three and seven months AFTER the defendants were indicted on July 30, 2014.

    Wouldn't you interview eyewitnesses BEFORE the indictment is handed down so you can verify that the accusations in the indictment are true??

    What the fuck is going on here??

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    1. Apparently the Feds get to play by their own set of rules, which seems odd considering they are accusing these 6 men of doing just that. How this investigation was not shut down after YEARS of no physical evidence is mind blowing. How this got to trial is even more mind blowing, even with a not guilty verdict they have in some ways ruined these men's lives- how can someone justify that, with the circus that the Feds have been putting on in that court room for the passed three weeks. The people that did the investigation, the people that let this go to trial, should not just get to walk away Scott free. So that's a great question, What the F is going on here?

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    2. What should happen is the FBI , three stooges need to be indicted then fired. They have personal vendettas against the 6 men. Shame on the US Attorneys office for sending this case to the Grand Jury. No jury will buy this mess. Salute to our men in blue.

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    3. I hope Jeff Walker gets a life sentence he has lied time and time again because he hates Tommy.

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    4. Its easy to indict anyone if you lie to a grand jury, you have the prosecution leading the jurors who were feed distorted ,erroneous lies. The government gets extra points just because they are the government and no one believes the government would lie to the American people. The jury thinks they are doing their civic duty by agreeing with the prosecutors. Hence they get their indictments. Easy really.

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  2. when the government put then 16 unlicensed pharmacist on the stand to testify against Tommy and the boys,the unlicensed pharmacist were believable,So are you saying that the US Attorney's Office just made this stuff up,?you people are in big time denial,I would love to know how much these lawyers are charging for the whole trial. I got McMahon 250,000 thousand for the trial

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  3. when the government put then 16 unlicensed pharmacist on the stand to testify against Tommy and the boys,the unlicensed pharmacist were believable,So are you saying that the US Attorney's Office just made this stuff up,?you people are in big time denial,I would love to know how much these lawyers are charging for the whole trial. I got McMahon 250,000 thousand for the trial

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    1. I can't even entertain that comment, other then the "unlicensed pharmacist" you get your drugs from, whatever their selling you must be messing up your brian and your ability to read (I.e follow this case)

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    2. Mr Goodwin and Billy C you guys haven.t figured how to stop duping your texts. Any way you sorry souls can spin this shit anyway you want. These guys for the last time will be aquitted . No Jury in the nation would convict with the facts ' evidence and testimony of these sorry ass witnesses who.s chances for a reduce sentences were shattered the first day one of these witnesses spoke on the stand. You all say us folks looking for a not guilty verdict are having Grand illusions here really need to sober up do some soul searching and look in the mirror and ask yourselves how bad the US Government played and promised your asses reduce sentences better have gotten those deals in writing and stamp by your lawyers. If not the fucking your gonna get from the Government won.t even compare to the one you think you got from Tommy and the boys. Some food for thought while your grand scheme of things passes right before your eyes. Welcome to the big leagues boys. How did you say it when the agent ask you quote ( I FEELS MYS RIGHTS HAS BEENS VIOLATEDS ) Just quoting the how the Nort Philly Democrats would says its. Well my bruthas Your rights weren.t the only thing Violated by the US Government better check your asshole you might have been raped too. Now you.ll get to feel how these Gentlemen felt with these false accusation only there going home to loved ones while someone will be filling that hole in your ass left by the agents who promised you a shorter sentence. Checkmate

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  4. I heard McMahon is doing it for free. He really really really hates lying drug dealers.

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    1. Jack McMahon free is not in His vocabulary. .

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  5. I would bet that attempts were made by the feds to get audio and video surveillance on these guys and it didn't work. If this case wasn't tight enough to prosecute, then why are we using all of this taxpayer resources and going to trial with this?

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  6. Well Jimmy Binns needs some new wingtips

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    1. Maybe Jimmy should file a law suit against the Hero Scholarship fund of Philadelphia . Find out where the millions of dollars disappear . He should go after the grave robbers who stole money from that fund .

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  7. The feds are going to call Tony Boyle . He will tell how corrupt Philadelphia police superiors are ?

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    1. Yes, they are definitely going to call him....except that they rested already moron.

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    2. As fucked up as this case has been the Feds are probably dumb enough to call him as a witness considering they rested their case. If Boyle knew so muchwhy didnt the Feds interview him, they did a GREAT. job with all their other witnesses

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    3. A rebuttal witness to Chief Inspector Werner .

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  8. If I am on the jury, I could never put 6 men in jail for the rest of their lives for he said/she said.

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  9. The FBI and the media are just an extension of the prosecutors, the mainstream media is handed what the feds want in the paper to convict defendants before they even get to trial. I thought the FBI was supposed to be a fact finding ,neutral part of the judicial system. My idea of an FBI agent was one of honesty , integrity, a body sworn to protect the American people, nothing could be further from the truth. Watching the FBI agent lie in the Traffic Court trial was heart wrenching, all but one of the defense attorneys mentioned it in their closing arguments, but a room full of reporters and not one word about it in the media, not that day or any day after. Does the newspaper take its orders from the feds, when will the reporters get it. The feds are not GOD, they lie. With unlimited time and unlimited resources you would think the FBI would do the right thing since they are here to uphold justice. Its ironic that some went to jail for perjury, while the agent, walked away. He did his job, coached by the prosecutors. Audio tapes do not work that could help exonerate a defendant, witnesses crucial to a case are never interviewed. How can the FBI agents sell their souls, when does it stop. 302's need to be written in front of the person giving the statement and signed by the person to authenticate what was actually said. Not an agents version of what was said that is the norm now.

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    1. I hope your idea of an FBI agent has changed by now.....same FBI agent in this case as the traffic court trial, Wzorek. An agents version of what is said is exactly why they wont record or video ANY of their interviews

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  10. Everybody knows Chief Werner is a thief and Liar . The feds will bring in Chief Tony Boyle for a rebuttal witness . Werner refused to testified about corruption unless He received immunity . This is the Bum who replace Tony Boyle . When you screw a man with 39 years on watch out , He is going to get His Day of pay backs , to Commissioner Ramsey and Deputies of follow the leader not the law . Tony Boyle will have his DAY !!!!!!

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  11. EOUGH ALREADY with the. BALL WASHING of Tony Boyle. We get it your pissed off he was transferred. I am sure he appreciates the ASS KISSING you have been doing but I am starting to get embarrassrd for you.

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    1. Chief Tony Boyle will tell about Deputy Commissioner Stalker (Blackburn ) who also reused to cooperate in narcotics investigation ,unless He received immunity . He will also tell about Commissioner Ramsey covering up for Inspector Horne and Captain McCloskey . Chief Tony Boyle complained that if the allegations against Horne and McCloskey are true, they should have been charged with crimes including obstruction of justice, hindering criminal prosecution, conspiracy and tampering with evidence.Chief Tony Boyle will not lied and commit perjury .

      Lying to Internal Affairs investigators also is a fireable offense, according to policy. Ramsey has refused to release details of Internal Affairs' findings. Chief Inspector Boyle knows Ramsey should have enforce the Crimes Code of Pennsylvania , instead He said they a mistake . Chief Boyle will make a good rebuttal witness !!!!!!!

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  12. Why are the Mayoral candidates not asking Chief Inspector Tony Boyle , to tell His side of the story why he got transfer . The E Mails He sent out to 13,000 active and retirees accusing Commissioner Ramsey of Covering up crimes , and complaints concerning female officers . Also Commissioner Ramsey cover for inspector Horne and Captain McCloskey . He said they did not commit felonies they made a mistake .

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  13. He also accused Commissioner Ramsey of promoting unqualified people . Also why did the Commissioner Replace Chief Inspector Boyle , with Chief inspector Chris Werner ? Chief Werner refused to cooperate with a FBI investigation concerning corruption in narcotics . He wanted immunity from prosecution . Deputy Commissioner Blackburn wanted immunity also . We need a federal grand jury to investigate Commissioner Ramsey and his Deputy Commissioners .

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  14. Some of the high lights from Chief Inspector Tony Boyles letter .The implications surrounding this incident and transfer are profound. Nothing in my almost 39 year career has the potential for harm to my character and reputation. When I was removed from Southwest Police Division because of personal animosity toward me, for my refusal to change an accurate performance report of a personal friend of my Deputy Commissioner, I didn’t say a word or file a grievance. It didn’t affect my character or reputation, if anything it acted to reinforce my character and reputation.

    This incident is the complete opposite. As I see commanders of all ranks, including mine, investigated for criminal acts, multiple EEO complaints, domestic incidents and incompetence, yet maintain their commands and, in some cases, be promoted; I can no longer remain silent. This transfer from T&ESB, during the height of funeral preparations for a fallen officer, intrinsically carries with it the message that I did something egregious surrounding the funeral and the honors for our fallen officer and his family, or I was insubordinate to my chain of command.

    That message was sent without any investigation, any opportunity for me to present or explain my actions, nor any due process. It was sent on the basis of outright dishonesty and distortions and not based on the facts.

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  15. Some of the words from Chief inspector Tony Boyle letter to the rank and file .The implications surrounding this incident and transfer are profound. Nothing in my almost 39 year career has the potential for harm to my character and reputation. When I was removed from Southwest Police Division because of personal animosity toward me, for my refusal to change an accurate performance report of a personal friend of my Deputy Commissioner, I didn’t say a word or file a grievance. It didn’t affect my character or reputation, if anything it acted to reinforce my character and reputation.

    This incident is the complete opposite. As I see commanders of all ranks, including mine, investigated for criminal acts, multiple EEO complaints, domestic incidents and incompetence, yet maintain their commands and, in some cases, be promoted; I can no longer remain silent. This transfer from T&ESB, during the height of funeral preparations for a fallen officer, intrinsically carries with it the message that I did something egregious surrounding the funeral and the honors for our fallen officer and his family, or I was insubordinate to my chain of command.

    That message was sent without any investigation, any opportunity for me to present or explain my actions, nor any due process. It was sent on the basis of outright dishonesty and distortions and not based on the facts.

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    1. Jim Kenney will meet Chief Inspector Tony ,I wonder what they will talk about ??

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    2. No no, the real question is what costume he will wear. Highway Patrol uniform or his kilt and bear skin cap?????

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  16. Lets compare Chief Boyle to Chief Werner….

    Boyle – If he is not wearing a kilt and bear skin cap, you can catch him wearing boots and britches (yea he is not in Highway) and riding his personally owned motorcycle that is equipped with Philly PD logos and lights and sirens.

    Werner – during testimony yesterday he told the prosecutor “as captain, I’m going to have to take responsibility” for the release of a drug dealer that the officers on trial are accused of abusing.

    Enough Said!

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    1. Enough said Werner refuse to cooperate with federal authorities investigating corruption . Boots and britches do not make a cop . Lots of highway cops are arrested and some went to jail . Go down the list of how many highway cops were arrested and put in jail . Tony Boyle put 35 years in the military , He earn His britches , at least he does not have a metal plate in His head .

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    2. Ok lets try and set the record straight. Some of you bags of shit are totally off base. I am no fan of the majority of higher ups in particular Werner and Blackburn, but THEY DID NOT REFUSE TO COOPERATE. They asked that the interviews be conducted at Internal Affairs and that they be video taped. The Feds said NO. Youre another one getting their info from biased news media accounts or the rumor mill.

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  17. Thanks to Chief Inspector Tony Boyle changes ,will be coming to the third floor of the PAB . The ship is tilling as we speak . They are taking water .

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    1. Captain Captain the ship lisping she.s taken all she can take and she can.t take much more !!!!!!

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  18. Hey maybe he can wear those boots with his kilt.... That should assist him in making changes at the PAB. Idiot!

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  19. You are obviously one of his lacky booze buddies!

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  20. These 6 dick heads are done. Justice will prevail....Karma is in the form of Licciardello in solitary for 23/1, crying and complaining. I think JB or one of these assholes said if you cant do the time don't do the crime...well how are those apples Tommy. These guys are cocky as hell and never thought they would get caught. They hid the money well and are smart, they knew how to hide money and had so many years to plan ahead. If one witness is telling the truth it should be enough to lock these dudes up. I expect a split sentence with the jury finding them guilty of some not guilty of other charges. Either way they going to jail just maybe for not as long as they deserve.

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  21. If ONE witness is telling the truth it should be enough to lock these guys up? Well if their guilty then ALL of the witnesses should be telling the truth? It's a shame for you and all of your hood rat friends that EVERY witness that the Feds put up got caught LYING. Being cocky is obnoxious but it's not illegal.

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    1. I think most all the witnesses are telling the truth. Credibility is an issue with a few of them and I understand that. What I meant by saying if ONE witness is telling the truth, meaning that even if they only stole and falsified documents ONE time they are guilty. For example you might not believe Rosario but you believe Kushner etc. Even if Rosario lied about the rolex, Kushner is telling the truth about the money that means Tommy and crew still broke the law and are still guilty of the charges. The jury can decide who is telling the truth and who isn't, but if reason to be believe the cops could or did steal and lie they are guilty as charged. In a RICO case the group is responsible for the actions of any individual in the case. Walker already admitted to it....JB and MT you guys got it all wrong. These cops will be found guilty,

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    2. .....Except all of them got caught lying, so even if someone would like to believe they were telling the truth about any parts of their stories, they still all have gotten caught in lies on the stand. Some of them got caught in so many lies they didnt make it to the stand or were "silently dropped". If these 6 men did what the feds are accusing them of, and after almost a decade of being investigated there is NO ACTUAL PROOF? not ONE THING. Come on, i dont care how smart or good you are at stealing and robbing drug dealers the feds tried to set them up plenty of time, none of the people saying they did these things have any proof, NOT A ONE!

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    3. I agree, they were set up 3 times and all drugs and money were there! I mean really if they were robbing and stealing they only did it sometimes??

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  22. Jail jail themmm All. Theses six friggin dirt bag theif narcos must be locked away forever. Put bunk beds in their cells family size and through their family and little piglet friggin kids in there Tooooo. Who cares scum bag narcs.

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    1. You sound like a nice respectable guy. Do you think your family should be punished for your lack of English skills and disrespect ?

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    2. You sound like all of the goverment witnesses, Absolutely nothing intelligent coming out of your mouth. Im wondering if you look as stupid as you sound.

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  23. Shout out to Tommy, Spicer and Speiser.We miss taking there money and pills in the card games they would lose to us in the bar in Bridesburg.These North Catholic Choir Boys are far from innocent.They are getting what they deserve.I feel for their children.They dont deserve to be put thru this.their Dad's were being selfish, only thinking of theirselves

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    1. If you went to North try and track down your english teachers you are in need of some tutoring you illiterate fuck

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    2. Is it possible to be a North Cath. choir boy even though two of them didn't go to North?
      And Nice try on the taking money and pills in "the bridesburg bar" the owners of that bar would NEVER let that fly clearly you've never been there- but try again....... If you're going to try to trash talk these men, at least try to make it believable, although I guess your just following in the foot steps of your fellow "street pharmacist" friends making comments that don't make sense, making up lies for some weird jealously or vendetta because they violated you and your rights blah blah blahhhhh, and I'm with Jim G, if you went to North....may I suggest getting your parents a refund.

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    3. Also, I feel for your children, what were you doing in a bar in bridesburg playing cards for pills and money??...right...

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  24. Find it funny 2 of these lawyers were defending these drug dealers a couple of years ago against these same cops, an during them cases they were telling judges in criminal justice center how dirty the cops are now they are on cops side saying drug dealers are liars. They are gonna get what they deserve they are there to serve an protect not steal ,lie and beat people just so they can live better lives. What goes around comes around its there turn now to see how it feels.

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    1. That would be considered a confluct of interst . It wouldnt be allowed. Another one talking shit. You my friend ate quite confused and very misinformed.

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    2. I like when Jim G comments bc it shows what people with Downs Syndrome are capable of.

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    3. That's weird because we like when you and your trolling friends comment too! So the rest of us can see what you guys are not capable of. Usually reading, writing, complete thoughts, logic....the list goes on and on.

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    4. Wife? Girlfriend? Extended family ?

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    5. Look at you go anonymous, a full complete sentence with no mispellings and capitalization of words. I am so proud of you. You get a gold star and one free oxy. Keep up the good work your parents must be proud. Oops parent must be oroud.

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    6. I am the Wife of one AND the girlfriend to another, also I am a man, wait til the FEDS get a load of this!

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  25. What about fatso John McNesby , How can he Afford a $ 600,000 home , and a place at the shore .fatso never had any extra money when he was a cop . I guess that survivor fund with the cash flow comes in handy . Fatso work narcotics did He work under licciardello ?

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  27. Chief Tony Boyle getting a call from deputy police Commissioner Coulter . He hated that . She call Him to tell him He was transfer . She is disgrace ,She is so fat and out of shape .She looks like the good year blimp in uniform . She cannot run ,She just about walks .She could never pass a legit physical . She should being doing commercials for dunking donuts .

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  28. Deputy Police Commissioner Christine Coulter she needs to go on a crash diet . She really looks like a unmade bed uninform .

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  29. My god where did the time go. I see the dealers and english illiterates are in the house. U can tell by the thought full commentary about defendents kids. At least these cops spent time with there children unlike u dealers and haters who.s
    baby mommas has to play mom and dad because your broke Jailed asses can.t stay out trouble so lets run there familys down because you guys as fathers can.t step to the plate. Especially anonymous 7.21 what happen mommy sleep wit the whole neighbor hood so you don.t know who your daddy is so will just hate the cops for having a Job snd supporting there familys like real adults are supposed to do. Your what Society calls a real loser anonymous 7.21. Hate all you want Not Guilty will be the verdict. Then sit back all you drug dealing haters and fellow officers who could.nt be narco cops hate the guys who could be get the Job done. When they file lawsuits and the city and Government have to pay for the injustice that was done here you.ll really have something to hate about.

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    1. Thank You! I can not figure out why it is so hard for "some people" to understand that.

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    2. Yes! Yes! YES JB

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    3. Thank you Just trying to speak the truth here with the facts and evidence that was presented during this trial. And for the last 4 wks all the prosecution desperately did was parade convict after convict who told there storys then when cross examined contradicted what they said or got a brain cramp and could not remember. And they want this Jury to convict these guys on this evidence and testimony good luck u got better shot of seeing Jesus ride a bicycle on Broad street when the pope comes to town.

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  30. Remember Jimmy Ryan He was a Boot and britches Guy . He went to jail .

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  31. What about the guy in highway they call elephant man . He was a honest cop .

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  32. Honestly, it does not matter what witnesses are credible and what ones arent. I myself would be a credible witness. I go to work everyday, my paycheck is direct deposited, I have receipts for any major purchases I have made and they are insured. I have never been in trouble with the law. However, I cannot go to the FBI or the police and just say that Joe Shmo stole 20k off of me and not have any proof of it and expect Joe Shmo to go to jail for the rest of his life. The burden of proof is on the ones making the accusation and there IS NO PROOF!

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    1. Thank you! I can not figure out why it is so hard for *some people* to understand that, this is a whole case with absolutely no physical evidence and no proof, not one of those drug dealers including Walker got on that stand and had any proof of ANYTHING.

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    2. Can you type your comment in all caps so the village idiots on here may understand it. You need evidence to convict someone. Rumor, innuendo, biased media accounts, the delusional wishful thinking of some and fiction are not evidence, these are not considered proof as much as you dirtballs wish they were.

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    3. This guy one up^^.. Such a slap jack strapper. Has trouble tying his shoes.

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    4. You took the time to read through all of these comments and thats the best you came up with? A slap jack strapper ( is that a real thing?) and has trouble tying his shoes?? Let me guess, either your dads name was also jim and he left you as a child or ( im hoping judging by your comment ) that you are a child and these 6 men locked up your drug dealing father. Which is it?

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  33. Bury them Friggin dirty rat ex narcs. Give them 20 years for every civil and local crime they committed. BETTIS....SPICER....SPENCER...TOMMY L(BIGGEST LOSER OF THEM ALL)...REYNOLDS TOO(ASS HOLE YOUR KID ISNT PLAYN BASE BALL ALL HAPPY NOW IS HE? BLAME YOUR OWN ACTIONS THEIF)...and NORMAN(JUST ANOTHER DUMB ASS BLACK MAN.) You played dirty with your badge. You didnt play fair and got caught. Who cares if you get found guilty or not...not me!!!! Yous a never be cops again ever!!!! Thats good enough for me. Yous a never be able to live in this city. Your tainted...trash....cant even hang in the ole pubs. Get lost you dirty scoundrels!!!! Hope yous suffer with this all the days of your sniveling little lives!!!! And why should i not wish the same on your children when you had no concern for mine? Why? Why? Frig your dirt bag kids and money hungry wives!!!! Please public readers and jury...please find these dirty cops guilty and rid our city if them. AND IF THERE IS A GOD TO MAKE THEM PAY FOR THE SHIT THEY PULLED ON EVERYONE OVER THE PAST 12 YEARS PLEASE PUNISH THEM LORD!!!! Phila make these cops pay for taking advantage of their position of authority!!!! Theses grown ex bacon narcs are hated by alllll and the ill will wished on them will manifest as a Curse upon them. Guilty guilty guilty!!!!

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    1. Well there it is, the dumbest most insane fucking thing that I have read. EVER!!!!!

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    2. Hahaha...check out Procopio. Scared to death he is now going to be going to jail for perjury he is praying to the Lord for a guilty verdict. Sorry deaf boy...ain't gonna happen. Enjoy prison again.

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    3. Who the fuck is Spencer?

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    4. Who the fuck is Bettis?

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    5. I think he's that guy who used to play for the Steelers.

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    6. Maybe I missed something!! Where is the proof they did anything?? Cause Jeff walker said what they did? He don't know anything about them. Everything he saying was made up in his head

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    7. Narcotics is a cess pool of corruption .Commissioner Ramsey is a disgrace. He gave Inspector Horne and Captain McCloskey a pass when they committed numerous felonies .Rank and file complained that if the allegations against Horne and McCloskey are true, they should have been charged with crimes including obstruction of justice, hindering criminal prosecution, conspiracy and tampering with evidence.

      Lying to Internal Affairs investigators also is a fireable offense, according to policy. Ramsey has refused to release details of Internal Affairs' findings.

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    8. Commissioner Ramsey needs to be replace . His job is to enforce the Law ,not intrepid the law . His Deputy Commissioners are lackeys . They should stand up to Him when He is breaking the law !!!!!

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    9. I bet this comment was written by one of the mother's of the drug dealers. Face it lady, your son was arrested for selling drugs on the street. Your son is the worthless piece of trash, not the officers who arrested him. I hope he is still in jail and if he's not, he will be soon again - for selling drugs. Your son help's destroy people's lives by selling them drugs. Your son ruins families. I hope your son rots in jail and destroys your family. I pray that our men in blue rid the city of all of these drug dealers - and if there is a god - make these drug dealers suffer just like the addicts they serve and the families they destroy.

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  34. "Yous a" don't even know their names ( that or....wait for it.....you can't spell either??? But all the rest of your junkie friends on here are sooo good at it)
    I hope BETTIS and SPENCER get what's coming to them buddy, it sounds like they really hurt your feelings ( let me guess they "violated you're rights"?) I also would like to thank you for making my night, there is never anything entertaining to watch on Sunday's so this has been a real pleasure. Just when you think they can't get any dumber * BAMM * you come along to impress us all.
    Sincerely yours,
    Fans of Bettis and Spencer

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    1. What difference do their names make? All part of the trash.

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    2. 12:44 Yes you could call them trash men, for all the the trash they got off the streets~ but I see they missed one.......

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  35. Put them 6 pork chops in the ole hang mans loop. Jails to good for them. Throw them to the war dogs for meat these 6 beast of burden days are numbered. 6-6-6 will be their new badge number.
    They are guilty and the same for their kids and wives who shared the spoils of these 6 sick rabid dogs once called cops.
    Id hang them myself if it was legal and the law called on me to serve the duty. They are an abomination to their own once brothers in blue. Commissioner Ramsey get this 6 miserable f#cks out of this city. Feds and Jury members reading this post find these JERKS GUILTY!!! Teach this 6 fools that crimes pays refers to even them that they themselves are not above the law. Let these 6 rouge ex dirt bag porkers fry like sizzilean bacon till they all me the Lord for eternal punishment. THEY MUST AND WILL PAY FOR THEIR HORRENDOUS ACTS BEHIND THE SHIELD!!!! And to the cops who are strait up avoid this kind of corruption please. This city has enough criminal and dont need more in dressed in blue and wearing badges.

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    1. Can someone please translate this garbage for me?

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    2. Yo cuz you need to put that shit down for a while wait for the trial to be over here the verdict where everybody but you pretty much knows the outcome. Then get ready for sentencing because it seams your guidelines depend on a guilty verdict which is.nt in the cards. Then learn to have respect for men in badges Because if you think Tommy and the Boys were ruff on you wait till the guards get a whole of your drug dealing lieing ass they will help you get your mind right. And if you really want to do us all a favor and nobody here will disagree end it by putting a bullet in your head so your sorry soul will be at peace. Because until you take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming others you will never find peace sorry but true.

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    3. I dont know about you guys but all i got from that was an appetite. Other then Porkchops and "sizzilean bacon" i could understand what he was saying.

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  36. Looks like Procopio is back smoking that crack rock. Hope they bring back that translater so he can hear loud and clear NOT GUILTY!!!

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  37. Im not from philly but these police officers on trial from what im hearing are definately going tk be found guilty.

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    1. What could you possibly be hearing?

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    2. Narcotics is a problem with corruption, What about the alleged theft at FIU was a potential federal crime, Magsam was never disciplined. According to the lawsuit, Lt. Testa discouraged cops in the unit from reporting the alleged theft.(Magsam resigned from the force in , a few months after cops removed 51 guns from his Northeast Philly home. Commissioner Ramsey talk about gun control . Commissioner you were wrong and also , made have cover up a crime .

      Little, who worked in the FIU at the time of the alleged theft, reported it to Ramsey and Deputy Commissioners Richard Ross and Patricia Georgio-Fox in May 2010, according to the suit.An Internal Affairs investigation was launched, and Logan was put in charge of the case.

      The lawsuit says that Logan determined that Testa and other top officials, including Heath and Blackburn, had orchestrated a coverup of Magsam’s alleged theft . Commissioner Ramsey play the mistake card again . Talk about cover ups Commissioner Ramsey is number one in that department . Some example Commissioner Ramsey and His Deputy Commissioners set .

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  38. Remember 5 squad narcotics with Captain Wilson and his band of thief's . Nothing changes only the years .

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    1. The problem in Philadelphia is The Pension fund of Philadelphia . We love our felons until they stop rewarding crooked Cops with life time pensions ,nothing will change . You want honest cops change the Pension law to include all felonies .

      Look at Philadelphia Police Sergeant Robert Ralston on April 5, 2010 lied to police investigators about having been shot earlier that day by a man in the Overbrook section of this city. It is also a confirmed fact that the sergeant completely fabricated a story about having been shot by a “black man wearing cornrows” when the truth is that he premeditatedly shot himself. In addition, it is a confirmed fact that Sergeant Ralston confessed to his racist lie and that on May 11 he was suspended with intent to dismiss.

      He put Police Officers in harms way . He put the African America community on edge . He receives a life time Pension for committing felonies . The pension board is supposed to vote independent . Why did they violate the Law ? When to Tax Payers get Justice . What about the Police Officers who never tarnish their Badge . Pensions for good guys only

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    2. Its there moneys there time no matter what they did pay them. They should take your welfare checks for doing drugs if you think that way. Be carefull what your black asses sdk for you might just get it

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  39. You are right .We need to take care of the Police Officers who honor their oath .

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  40. These bad rogue cops are pure criminals of the very worse sort. ANYONE that lives in South Philly has heard of their tactics and seen their reckless abuse of the law (stop and frisk), etc. THEY ARE GUILTY AS SIN....REFUTING DRUG DEALERS TESTIMONY.... WISE UP. THIS IS THE POOL OF PEOPLE THEY HAVE STOLEN FROM AND HAVE BROKEN EVERY LAW POSSIBLE INCLUDING THEIR OATH AS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS!!!

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    1. Wow, that's really weird. I live in South Phila and everyone that I talk to is 100 PERCENT fully supporting and praying for these officers. Once they heard Michael Procopio (the neighborhood joke) was a witness there was no other thought. Drug dealers testimony is being refuted with actual evidence. Sorry they FBI gave these drug dealers their 15 minutes of fame but it was for nothing. NOT GUILTY will be the verdict and the druggies and junkies will be back in jail before long.

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  41. As the article states, "In their original investigation of the defendants, how could the feds have left so many uncovered bases? How could they have not interviewed all the defendants' fellow cops, especially their superior officers, if the superiors were alleged eyewitnesses to some of the episodes and a party to some of the arrests?" There is only one answer . . . they knew that the testimony of the fellow cops and superior officers would not corroborate the testimony of the drug dealers and the Feds would never have been aboe to get their indictment. So they just decided not to talk to them. It's pretty obvious. There is no evidence to corroborate their allegations!!!!

    Walker has major, major credibility problems as do the drug dealers who testified. Also, every single witness brought forth by the prosecution had major factual discrepancies in their stories, which was pointed out by the defense.

    Another big flaw in the case is that the drug dealers basically all told the same story on the witness stand over and over and over again, down to using the same words used to describe the alleged police behavior in the case. The cops ransacked my house, blah . . . blah . . . blah . . . the drug dealers usually said.

    This was not an investigation, this was a railroad job. This was not about finding the truth, this was about getting an indictment, come hell or high water. This article speaks volumes about the shody investigative practices and the obvious coaching of witnesses.

    Shame on the FBI.

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    1. No hard feelings. F them stinky 6 swines. Railraod them too!!! I can except that as a win.

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  42. Just keep on posting. The more you write, the better things look.

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  43. People continue to make themselves sound like a bunch of uneducated dumb asses. How about don't sell drugs and you would of never been on their radar. As hard as it may be for drug dealers or addicts to believe, people don't like people in their neighborhoods that sell drugs to their kids. They took drugs and guns and illegal money off the street and you idiots are mad because they may have took it from you. Get a job like everyone else and make money the legal way, and by the way Procopeio, no one wants you in South Philly, you are trash and everyone knows it. I hope all 6 walk free and I'm sure who ever testified for the prosecution will be in jail again at some point, losers like you can't live an honest life

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  44. Guilty or not guilty.If these ex cops or re instated cops would have just took the dealers money and not arrested them.they wouldn't have been in this situation.The dealers would chalk it up as business and take the loss on the chin.And then they start back up again as free men.But they had to play both sides of the fence.I pray for their families.God bless

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    1. Man f these 6 rabid dogs family. What did the care about yours? Send the kids to juvenile lock up for 5 years and send the wife to alaska as punishment for knowing what their pervert husbands done and stood by them why they did the dirt. I have no sympathy for these trashy ex cops. Respect to those cops who protect and respect their position.

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      Up yours Mooley these guys slaped the shit out of your mooley ass when they hit that door didn.t they well guess what get ready baby because your ass is going right back in the joint when trial is over. And we your honor find the defendents NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES!!!!!! GOT THAT MOOLEY NOT GUILTY MY ---GA

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    3. Brotherman dont feed into the ignorance of this one racist. Those cops on trial have done alot of damage they will pay and their families and kids will suffer as well.

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    4. Alaska is very pretty their wives might appreciate a little vacation after all this BS.!

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    5. Anonymous 11.04 nothing racist about he want to make comments about kids and wifes then he.ll be treated as such shame on him not me you bruha.s can.t have it both ways soon as you don.t like what you hear let.s play the race card. Ask around truth is Society is a little tired of your antics. You want to act like one you.ll be treated as one. Start taking resposibility for your own actions and blaming others for your fuck ups may be people will give you the respect you seek till then you.ll be considered just what you are. How many times must it be said want respect give respect. It.s a two way street boys straighten up! !!!

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    6. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE JB!

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  45. Hey look at all the street thugs and hood rats acting up in Bailtimore today and you wonder why nobody believes your drug dealing scum bag loser asses. There is no reason why authority figures should.nt be able to protect them selves by any means when out numbered or in fear for there lives. With that said anyone of these jurors watching this show tonite on National Tv seeing the disrespect for law enforcement across this country and in this city will not convict these officers with the lies and lack of evidence in this trial and seeing what these guys and others across the Nation deal with on a day to day basis on live TV could.nt have come at a better time. Audio and pictures my friends on live tv called evidence at its best no problem seeing who the culprits were here today.Some thing thats lacking in this trial audio pictures and evidence.Not Guilty

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    1. Where is the Evidence ?."we've attempted to verify it, but we have been unsuccessful" ( oh you mean you could not find any EVIDENCE)....almost a decade of investigating, and a dozen junkies on the stand...were missing something's guys, Evidence.
      Good luck this week Boys, and as for you drug dealers, jealous co-workers and hood rats. Hold on to your hats kids, the defense is just getting started!

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    2. JB YOU ARE PATHETIC! you must be family the way you reacted to that comment. Hit a soft spot huh? These guys did it, and are guilty of something. If you believe in Karma this is karma coming full circle. They may not be guilty of every charge but they are guilty of some. They crossed the line and broke their oath in the name of greed. When these jurors agree that there is beyond a reasonable doubt that these guys committed the accused crimes the only thing they will be sorry for is that they got caught. I see JB and MT correcting everybody's English, how's mine? If I disagree with you does that make me a piece of trash drug dealer?

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    3. Your English is fine, your ability to read is apparently not fine. If you can not follow the case by reading the articles on bigtrial then maybe you should go down to the court room and listen to it for your self. Now i want you to stay there until the FEDS put up any form of evidence that these men did what they did. A group of criminals looking for a pay day or a get out of jail free card who can barely speak proper english let alone remember the "stories" they are supposed to tell or told to the grand jury and you expect us to believe them? Im all in favor of Karma and a fair trial but WHAT CAN PEOPLE LIKE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO PROOF OF ANYTHING. Get out of here calling other people PATHETIC, pathetic would be bringing a case to trial with no evidence. PATHETIC is investigating a group of men for almost a decade and not finding any actual proof of wrong doing even when you tried numerous times to set them up. So, to answer your question....your English is fine, the rest of you is.....PATHETIC.

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    4. No it does not anonymous agree to disagree but just because someone you arrested feels there rights were violated and they were caught with the goods and convicted . Then wanna make a deal and everyone brought up there has been caught in a lie i have a problem with that. Pathetic or not get evidence or get lost period.

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  46. Good morning my haterswhat a lovely day for the defense to show evidence real that is why these 6 will be set free grab a coffe come to the court house and watch why these young men will be aquitted.

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  47. I hope you are right!! Fingers crossed

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    1. Those guys will not be found innocent .Sad to say they are thieves . Chief Werner should not get a pass ,He is guilty . His buddy Deputy Commissioner Blackburn should be on trial also . This is not over yet more arrest are coming . The feds are cleaning out the cess pool . The cops who work in narcotics , are looking at each other and saying who's next ?

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    2. These guys won't be found innocent because some anonymous poster on big trial.net said so. What are you people not getting about the fact that there is NO EVIDENCE being submitted in court. If they are thieves then they deserve to go to jail but.....YOU HAVE TO PROOVE IT!!!!!!!

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    3. Anonoymous 11.29 probably a cop
      Will just lock everybody up who had earned there right to be promote. Leave that pieve of shit Ramsey at the top and promote all you flunkies who could.nt get promoted till domeone retired or got locked up. Do i have the big picture now im sure i do. When you get serious about who should go start from the top that would be Commisioner Ramsey then work your way down and when you get to your flunkie ass names put them down too now were getting some where. Get my drift. NOT GUILTY NOT GUILTY NOT GUILTY! !!!!!!!!!!!.....

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  48. JB here some of you might find my last few comments offensive as i have found other post here offensive from anomymous haters so Like the bruthas say Just keeping it real. I can.t lose my Job for saying the truth see because my peeps get it. So head on down to the show baby and watch your dreams disappear. You drug dealers who testified earlier might want to get your affairs in order.

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  49. I wonder what Jeff Walker is going to do if it's a not guilty

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  50. When is fat Johnny McNesby going to jail ? Everybody knows He is stealing money from the survivor fund . The guy was living in Mayfair , now He is livening in a $600,000 home , A place at the shore . Richie Costello and Bob Eddis former fop President ,We know why they step down . Maybe Fat Johnny think every cop is stupid .

    The word on the street Law enforcement authorities need to look at Fat Johnny . The survivor fund is 75% cash flow . How much is going into fat Johnny pocket ? The financial records of the survivor Fund , I think the accountant is blind . FOP needs to be audit . Maybe fat Johnny isn't fat ,Its His money belt !!!!!

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    1. The survivor fund was set up for Police Officers kill in the line of duty . After all is said and done . What happens to money . Look what they did to the Hero Scholarship fund of Philadelphia .They stole millions out of that fund . What did the powers to be do .They started the Hero scholarship fund inc. We let crooked cops and lawyers walk on the graves of our Hero's . Don't worry Uncle Jimmy Binns is on the case .

      Millions of dollars missing from the Hero Scholarship fund of Philadelphia . My question to Uncle Jimmy , how come a criminal complaint was never file . The thin blue line was broken . When grave robbers get a pass ,and get to keep the money they stole from the fund . Its a disgrace and criminal , its a slap in the face to the families ,who lost love ones .

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  51. That's why Mike Stack would not support John McNesby . He was afraid He would get indicted for the RICO act . John McNesby is a back stabber ask Chief Inspector Tony Boyle . The clock is ticking on the people running the FOP . Tick, tick, tick, time is running out .

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    1. Tony Boyle was mad because John McNESBY, would not give him a ride in His six thousand dollar golf cart .Tony next time wear your skirt ,maybe He will give you a ride .

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  52. Who cares???? So long as tommy and his o.k. coral flunkies get hit over the with time.

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  53. Well should.nt be long know M.T Boys are getting up checking burn phone getting there stash in order. Stop by the local popeyes for breakfest lunch and dinner check in on baby momma make sure she.s not creepin then off to the local haunts make somes sales. Then may be head back to the crib and text why these 6 cops are no good did i leave anything out if so sorry.

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  54. No, I believe you hit that nail right on the head JB!
    Now go ahead anonymous "non drug dealers" ( officers that wouldn't make it a day in Narcotics ) chime in as to why these guys are guilty, even though you can form a complete sentence ? But please before you make your self look like an idiot ( it's like ground hogs day on here ) find some evidence (since your so smart) yet even the Feds couldn't do it....go ahead...Impress me.

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  55. Jury throw the friggin book at these crooks . These cops dont even deserve 30 years give them 65 yrs each. They are idiots robbing drug dealers. Hey tommy your wife diamond ring is the one you stole from Pats house assholes. Hope your wife pawns it after she dumps you(your getting hard time tommy).
    Nothing means more to me then to see these dirty friggn ex cops get railroaded. I can care less about money lawsuits thats bull!!! I have money and work my ass off. Tommy and his robbery gang sent me to jail 4 yrs. I did my time but it was the way they yelled at my mother and girl while both my daughters cried their hearts out. These cops was wrong nkw let them pricks suffer. I dont want to hear spear their families either. Their families knew everything so let them pay too!!!

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    1. concern bruthas want to knowsApril 28, 2015 at 6:51 PM

      My brutha whats was your ass thrown in jail fors and dids you acts like this in fronts of moms and kids like yous kusts writins

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    2. Oh my gosh you mean these guys just went in to an innocent "hard working" mans house and arrested him in front of his daughters ( they must be SO PROUD of daddy) his mom ( again, makin mama proud my man) and his "girl" ( notice you didn't say wife, they don't do that in the hood) booooooo whooooooo get the F outtaaaa here. 4 years wasn't enough, but don't worrie....you'll be back.

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    3. Ok George just posted new article and its a dandy

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