Thursday, December 5, 2013

Words And Meanings Argued At Mob Trial

By George Anastasia
For Bigtrial.net

What was said in a taped telephone conversation or written in the letter or Christmas card was not in dispute.

But what the words meant was the focus of nearly four hours of cross-examination today as mob informant Anthony Aponick, 43, spent a second day on the witness stand in the racketeering conspiracy retrial of George Borgesi and his uncle, mob boss Joseph Ligambi.

Aponick, a New York mob associate who was Borgesi's cellmate in a federal prison in Virginia for parts of 2002 and 2003, clashed repeatedly with Christopher Warren, Borgesi's defense attorney.

Warren, trying to underscore in the jury's mind that much of what Aponick has testified to is uncorroborated, came back again and again to a simple query.

"We just have to take your word?" the lawyer asked.

"It's the truth," Aponick responded.

The verbal tap dance went on for most of the day and will likely continued tomorrow when Warren concludes his questioning and Ligambi's lawyer, Edwin Jacobs Jr., takes his turn at discrediting the second key prosecution witness to testify in the case.

Aponick was forced to concede that some of the conversations and letters he had received from Borgesi and Borgesi's wife Alyson were, in fact, about legitimate business ventures they hoped to undertake in the Philadelphia area, including home building and remodeling.

But he said mobsters often use legitimate businesses as "fronts" or "covers" for illegal activities and that was what he said he and Borgesi were planning.

To which Warren again posed the question, "To give that criminal meaning we again have to believe you?"

At other times Aponick said words like "house," "chick" and "paper" that appeared in letters or were spoken in taped conversations were coded references to Borgesi's demand that Aponick cough up $10,000 in order to become a member of Borgesi's mob crew in Philadelphia.

Warren also focused on the $134,000 federal authorities had spent to relocate Aponick and provide him with a monthly stipend and other expenses while he was a cooperating/protected witness. An itemized rundown of the payments that was part of the cross-examination resulted in a barbed exchange between the witness and lawyer.

"I'm confused," Aponick said at one point.

After Warren had gone over some numbers again to clarify, the lawyer asked, "Still confused?"

Aponick quickly replied, "A little bit. I think everybody is."

The expenses the government paid, Aponick said, included surgery for an eye problem. And in an apparent reference to a comment made by Borgesi, he said, "Now I'm not a cross-eyed, junkie fat rat, I'm just a rat."

That, in its own way, was another reference to the debate over words and meanings. That Aponick is a former mobster turned cooperating witness -- a rat in underworld terminology -- is not in dispute. Whether he is telling the truth is the issue.

At another point Aponick told Warren that the lawyer had a problem with "past, present and future tenses" when framing his questions. In his turn, Warren asked Aponick again and again about Christmas greetings, holidays cards and references to food, football games and family members that were part of the written correspondence between Aponick and the Borgesis.

"Is this some cryptic, hidden Mafia meaning?" Warren asked a half dozen times after pointing to seemingly innocuous comments. Aponick conceded in most cases the words were simply what they implied....but not always.

Neither the witness nor the lawyer gave an inch during the verbal sparring match.

Aponick conceded he had "betrayed" the trust federal authorities had placed in him by committing eight bank robberies after his release from prison in September 2003 and while he was working as a confidential informant for the FBI in building a case against Borgesi.

"I made some bad personal choices," he said. But then he offered a classic underworld explanation,

Aponick said he was in debt to members of the Colombo crime family for about $50,000 in gambling losses.

"I figured all the government could do was put me back in jail," he said. "They (the Colombos) could kill me." He said about $25,000 from the bank robberies went to the Colombos, but stumbled when asked about the total amount he had grabbed and what the rest of the money was used for.

He denied Warren's inference that he was a drug addict -- "I haven't used drugs since 1997," he said -- but said the money went for "expenses."

Aponick also tried to refute Warren's contention that he has consistently "played" the government by working deals to get out from under his own criminal problems. When he was asked if he hadn't offered to cooperate back in 1997 when he was arrested for a series of armed robberies, Aponick said he had "talked" with authorities, but never agreed to cooperate.

"If I had cooperated," he said, "the entire Bonanno crime family would be in jail and we wouldn't be here."

Warren also hammered away at a "pitch" letter Aponick wrote to authorities seeking their help yet again after his arrest for the bank robberies. In the letter, Aponick said he was hoping for a three-year sentence, rather than the four-to-eight years he was facing. He said if the feds would vouch for him, he'd gladly go back to work on the Borgesi case, writing that he'd be "back in business against old Georgie Boy" and offering to "work for free."

Warren zeroed in again, asking Aponick if his entire plan was simply to "set Georgie up" in order to curry favor with the government.

Aponick denied it.

"I'm just here to tell you what he told me," he said.

He also admitted that he had been drummed out of the Witness Security Progam again in August after an arrest. But he said the charge was unfounded. While the judge has barred specific questions about the incident, a pretrial hearing provided some details.

Aponick was arrested in a domestic dispute case for allegedly throwing his wife out of a moving car. Those charges were later dismissed. Judge Eduardo Robreno said at the pretrial hearing that he would not allow the conspiracy trial to become a stage to rehash that case.

The conspiracy case against Borgesi is based primarily on the testimony of Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello and Aponick. The government alleges that while serving a 14-year sentence for a racketeering conviction in 2001, Borgesi continued to run a mob operation from prison.

Monacello, who testified earlier, has been described as Borgesi's  "point man" on the street in gambling and loansharking businesses. Aponick said he was to join Monacello in those businesses and expand them for Borgesi.

The debate over what was said and what it meant is expected to continue when Aponick returns to the stand tomorrow. A key issue for the defense is trying to offer a legitimate reason why Aponick, a New York mobster, ended up meeting with Monacello in a Ninth Street Italian restaurant shortly after his release from prison and why Borgesi, from prison, called Monacello while the dinner meeting was in progress.

The tape of that call has been played twice for the jury with both Monacello and Aponick offering explanations of what was said and what was meant. That meeting and that phone call go to the heart of the case against Borgesi.

George Anastasia can be contacted at George@bigtrial.net.

45 comments:

  1. Let's face it the Philly mob talk
    too much!!! You got too slap them
    to shut them up,,,,, Their Chumps!!

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  2. Wait too Nicodemo takes the stand!!

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    1. I heard he cant wait to get on that standvhe told some guy ."you think JohnJohn was the Greatest witness on the standv.Hollywood will b waiting for me in that court room." He also told hes cuz Ronnie that ALL THESE FUCKING NO GOOD SELF CENTER SHARKS ESP MERLINO ARE OUT FOR THEMSELVES.he would love to drown them in a tub full of ice .effin _ricks

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  3. Looks like the Philly Mob is Dead!!
    Rest in peace!!,,,,,,

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  4. Why would nicodemo snitch? I dont believe it!!!!

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    1. The question u should ask ur self why wouldnt he.

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    2. BEcause hes not gay!!!!

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    3. And BOY GEORGE IS STRAIGHT
      SO UR GAY IF U TALK little confused cus

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    4. Its funny bcuz of all the mob stories and all the gay mobsters not one gay mobster EVER RATTED. But theres always a first.Bor Gay Z lmao

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    5. Y would he RAT ?? yo cuz u serious hes facing life for 1st degree murder. U think he likes these guys enuff to keep his mouth shut.nobody is taking care of him or his family. .Remember he called them all SHARKS. He cant stand them guys he said it in a surveillance tape.Go do ur homework

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    6. I can name 50guys that werefacing life and got life and didnt say a word. ..

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  5. he aint these dopes just like starting up some rumors

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    1. One old proverb were there smoke theres fire even if u cant see it

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    2. Im sure i would have it on the street not on a computer. See ya later!

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    3. The reply to see ya later! Tick tock tick tock times not on ur side the nicodemo train is a rolling see ya when i see ya

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  6. If George and the Uncle are released, it's gonna be real awkward at the next family reunion.

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    1. Ya think lol !"!!

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    2. I hope they are both released. Its a travesty of justice that the feds use Aponick and Monacello to make their case. They are just looking out for themselves and a lesser sentence for their crimes. Joe and George especially have suffered enough!

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    3. Do bussiness with him if and when gets out let me know then what a travisty it is lol.

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  7. Mazzone better go in hiding......

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    1. Doubt that hes the only Man that ppl like & RESPECT

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    2. ^^dont be to sure about that, he is only a man. No need to put him up there as a idle. His brother isn't viewed as the same. Just saying...

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  8. Why would he go into hiding

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  9. Another fine day for
    PHILLY MOB
    AS THE TAPE TURNS

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  10. He know's why!!!














    Y









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  11. Where is that Moron!!!

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  12. George A, I wonder what going to happen to this site after this trial is over? You wont have this much activity on it..lol

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  13. They.ll be another trial after this alot more singing to be done itll be like nascar juggling for position lol




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  14. The only guy laughing right now is Scoops Lacata. Or maybe hiding under his bed ...

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    1. skinny is laughing also he's still having ppl do he's dirty wrk for him .like always hes the FRUIT CAKE .Scary Mary hiding in Fl with all the Jews ..Robbing them blind ..those MOZTA BALLS DONT no who there dealing with ..they should b checking their bank statements everyday. Lmao what a ucking joke

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  15. we will be back were back now,forgettabout it,the government is pathetic its a show,the goodguys walk..trenton

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  16. Hey Bellini shut the fuck up.

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  17. George, on behalf of the silent (educated) majority, we appreciate your coverage of the trial.

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  18. Mazzone that Fruit Cake!!!! Is shiting
    himself..........

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    1. Really??? How would you no ?? Your probably up his ass like a hemroid...

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  19. Mazzone still Acting Clown???

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  20. Nicodemo is a standup guy I played 8 to 10 baseball wit him , he never rated me out for puttin bubblegum on the coaches hat . Stabd up guy ..free nicky

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    1. I wouldn't mine being called a fruit cake. It looks great n taste great. .

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  21. You're crazy cus!!! He's facing murder!!
    How could you use your own car what
    a Moron!!!!!

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  22. Skinny always said Mazzone was a Fruit Cake!!!!

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  23. Everybody says it!!!,,,,,,,,,,.......

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  24. You must be GAY!!!!!

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  25. even if nicademo sings the philly mob is not over. phillip narducci will take over. nicademo got nothing on narducci or his brother frank and phillip narducci is the toughest old school gangster in south philly watch out don't underestimate narducci he could drop john veasy in a new York minute

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    1. How old are you!? That is a very childish thing to say. You seem to be one of the little "jersey shore" groupies that hang around selling pills and doing steroids and getting tans. Go to back to playing your Xbox!

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