Thursday, January 23, 2014

Deliberations Continue In Mob Trial

By George Anastasia
For Bigtrial.net

After a two-day snow storm delay, the jury in the racketeering conspiracy trial of mob boss Joe Ligambi and his nephew George Borgesi met for about five hours today without reaching a
consensus.

The panel of 11 women and one man asked no questions and sent out no notes. They will return tomorrow at 9:30 for the ninth day of deliberations in the high profile organized crime case.

The jury announced last week that it had reached a partial verdict, deciding two of the five counts it has been asked to consider. Judge Eduardo Robreno urged them to keep deliberating despite a note that indicated they had a "firm difference of opinion" on the other three counts.

Whether the days off changed their perspective remains to be seen. The conventional wisdom is that if the panel sends out another note indicating they are deadlocked, the judge would be hard pressed not to take the partial verdict and declare a mistrial on the other counts.

With a weekend and another potential snow storm looming, several observers were predicting that tomorrow, Friday, will bring some resolution to the case.

George Anastasia can be contacted at George@bigtrial.net

121 comments:

  1. The suspense is killing me. I hope today is the day. Judge Robreno is trying his best to extend this trial into extra innings. The government, depending on which charges are settled and which are hung, will try this a third time. I just cant imagine a guilty verdict on the partial verdict. We will see.

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  2. y r u sooo interested???? u ever think about gettin hobbie

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    1. ^^what about you? your on here..

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    2. reading the new s n commenting on it r two different things im just curious why u people r so interested in other people s lifes its amazing to me.. u r morons

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    3. U tell these people get a life but yet u post on here there morons cause again u domt like ones opionion i agree with the personal shit should be left alone but who.s kidding who as long as the company lets them post anonymous that will never stop unless George A see it early and puts mo comms aloud. As for^^ u up top if u dont like what ur reading go grab a nice book at the store.

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    4. like I said before I only on here reading it... I never coment one on this trial makes no difference I only comment ing on the fact that all u people are low lives to be here posting ur opinion on something has nothing to do with you..... go find news on little kids doin good in school comment on that too give them a ego booster to do better ... why care about these people the paper rights about... get a life loosers

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    5. ^^ The answer to ur question most of these losers are family members of the losers on trial and the other half of the losers are victims of the losers on trial just quoating u and for u how much of a dick head u must be for even making thst comment

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  4. Feds just picked up NY wise guys for murder Rico Murder Charges after 25.years ago!;,,,,, looks like these morons are next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. n that makes u happy .....why??

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    2. so our kids can play in the ours streets and not have to live in fear, how soon we forget about the Nicodemo Hit , he killed Gino in the day time wen kids were getting out of school r u kidding me, Let These Slobs Out, Y so one of our kids can get a stray bullet in their heads, The Judge and the Juors need to read the papers and books on these Crumb bums. STOP WITH THE """OH THEIR NICE GUYS """ NO THERE NOT

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    3. NO THEIR NOTTTTTTTT

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  5. Every body hobbie on here is to root for guilty or not guilty but sucks when they start with personal shit because they dont like ones opinion. As for me
    I said it earlier i thought Uncle Joe was a pretty good boss as for his nephew never cared for him i have no problem with the beating or killing amongs the people in this busssiness but to do to innocent or someone who diagrees with or just gets his rocks off i do. As for worrying about being beaten or killed for my opinion its not my first rodeo either with that said i hope Uncle Joe is found not guilty as for Boy George i hope he.s found guilty he.s bad forBussiness ! .

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  6. y is it ur place to say so ... what is it ur buisness either way???? u should find a hobbie

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  7. Feds don't Murders!!!!3up^

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  8. You mean don't forget murders...^

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  9. GA i like the picture of you standing at 10th wolf, i live right down the street, welcome to my HOOD!

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  10. GET OFFF THIS BLOG EVERYONE!!! do something constructive with your lives!!!!

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    1. My job doesnt start till 6.30 pm u see im a bookie so i have alot of free time and found this sight to be so hillarious people actually acting out on the computer with comments like ^^ urs telling people what they should or should.nt be doing o bye the way are u the COMPUTER POLICE simply marvalous peopl.

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    2. OK MRS SMART GUY ,,,YOUR A BOOKIE AND THE FED HAVE YOUR IP ADDRESS I JUST HOPE UR NOT AT YOUR COMPUTER WRITING SHIT LIKE THAT OUT HERE BUT THEN AGAIN IF YOUR A SO CALLED MOBSTER FROM PHILLY YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID...OMG HOW STUPID

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    3. Listen im no mobster thats a ticket straight to jail. 2 yes i do take action have no affilliation with the mob therefore feds should have no interest in me they would give it to the state which dorsnt have the time resources to bother with that yes i know they have my id# if i was wortied dick head i wouldnt comment at all

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    4. Can i get a line of credit?

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  11. Not good for the defense jurors just ask for more tapes from the prosecution.

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    1. Why is that not good for the defense! Do you know what the jury is thinking?

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  12. HOPE FULLY TODAY IS THE END OF MOBSTERS AS THE TAPES TURN.
    CAN.T WAIT TO SEE BOY GEORGE FOUND GUILTY 15YRS WAVING BYE BYE WITH THAT PICTURE IN DAILY NEWS FRONT COVER would how they say PRICELESS! !!

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    1. That would be like Hitting The Power Ball!! Send that Scum Away for GOOD!!!

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  13. Your right 2up, i gotta get back to my no show job before i get fired, have a nice day,!!!

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    1. I made that comment up top about BGeo but arent them show up jobs the best union wages benefits and i get to take my sports actin at night and dont half to pay any strret tax cause they know ill rat there asses out in a philly minute.

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  14. Sombody will Rat you out!!!^

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  15. Like who? There no rats in my neighborhood! !!

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  16. Hopefully they beat it, its a disgrace to waste our taxpayers money without any repercussion. If they want a murder/violence trial than prove it, not use a gambling charge and focus all the time and money on hearsay from informants and a ten plus year old recording a defendant using vulgar language. That same vulgar language is used by our so-called role models like football, basketball, baseball athlete's quite often and even some caught on video/tape saying those things but yet we give them a pass. Even some politicians like our Vice President if anyone recalls.
    The feds have really stretched themselves out so far to get a conviction, indirectly going after alleged and hearsay of violence.

    So is it conviction of vulgarity, that's what it will look like.If their is a a guilty verdict. Meanwhile the witnesses go free after committing violence as they have testified, their words, no body else's.



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  17. Oh your not from south Philadelphia^^2up

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  18. Don't worry indictments are waiting for Joeys boys !!!^^2up

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  19. 5Bonnano mobsters were arrested for the Jimmy Burke airport heist, thats like 35yr ago,the feds are a machine. .they don't run out of time or mmoney! !!

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    1. Who gives a Rats ass about NY mob we gotta trial going on here comments to post for and against the defense don.t have time to worry about them ry babys from Ny.

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    2. Ther not getting arrested for no bank heist unlees there was murder

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    3. My point is that the feds will keep coming after you no matter what especially if there is murders or robberies involved, sorry for disturbing your high profile gambling case,!!!

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    4. U stated ur point and they found a body supposed to be the character in goodfellas billy bsts dont know real name

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  20. Im from 10th moyamensing, n yes i spelled ut right unlike john John!

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  21. what does alyson borgesi look like?

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    1. Does she collect money and threatin people like Borgesis wife Alyson?

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  24. It's amazing the venom people have in them. How about keeping people's wives and their sexual "accusatory" preference out of the comments. Win, lose or draw, let the process play out.

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  25. She was seeing a lot of guy's!!! 2up^^

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    1. really what do u think there kids will look Like?

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    2. Short and fat and a little violent

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  26. George,
    What is the jury doing today?

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  27. Keep ass holes i think u ssy this shit purposely so he shuts the comments site down but for the hundrth time ur son brothet uncle father .
    BOY GEORGE IS GUILTY AND VERDICT WILL STATE THAT SO SPIN ANY SHUT THE SITE DOWN SO PEOPLE CAN READ COMMENT BUT HE.S GOING FOR ANOTHER 15 Yrs and i know im
    NOT THE ONLY PERSON HAPPY ABOUT THAT. NOTICE NO HATEFULL SHIT JUST THE TRUTH THIS WONT GET DELITED LIKE UR HATE FULL SHIT.

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    1. I know you are but what am I ... You sound like a 10 year old. Whatever bad thing has stained your happiness, suck it up big boy and move on.

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    2. Your right it shouldn't be delited. I hope they NAIL BORGESI TO THE FUCKIN CROSS!

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    3. Just an opinion u don.t agree with he.s a liitle jerkoff told him more than once not like u computer tough guys. So fuck amd ur family pal.

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    4. The past comment was for three up must be family. ^_3up

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    5. Let me tell you all something ive lost family members friends to this life but guess what thats the life they chose so either they were killed or in jail. So before you make your comments about people and there family just stop and think thats the life they wanted to live so if they got killed or went to jail or your a person they tried to kill and you know your on here just keep selling cars in witness protection. You also wanted to be a gangster your own crue tried to kill u. I dont think your btother should have got killed but you killed him because you wanted to be a gangster. When they walk out in the next week or two dont be surprised. And for you other people that have no stake in this u can say what you want on here but wont say it on the streets. Use dont even know quarter of what really goes on. My family members that were killed hey they wanted that life im sure i stand next to the people that killed them everyday and i consider them friends.

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  28. BOY GEORGE GUILTY AS CHARGED
    GETS ANOTHER 15 Yrs Justiced served

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  29. BYE BYE BYE
    BOY GEORGE! !!!""

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  30. Deliberating the final blow to BOY GEORGES LIFE AS A MOBSTER. SON BROTHER UNCLE FATHER! !!! 4up ^^

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  31. The nasty comments are starting again nothing to do with trial other than boy george comments might as wel shut it down till verdict comes . Then give them a few hrs to celebrate or get mad about decision and be done with it after that.

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    1. DONT SHUT IT DOWN GEORGE A. THE TRIAL IS ABOUT GEORGE BORGESI A RUTHLESS PERSON WHO USED VIOLEVCE TO COLLECT MONEY AND RUINED ALOT OF FAMILIES AND PEOPLES LIVES. IT HIS TIME NOW AND I HOPE THE MOTHER FUCKER GETS 20 YEARS....

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    2. YES! AND WHEN THEY CHARGE BORGESI WITH THE MAZZUCA MURDER WILL THROW A PARTY FOR THE GAS CHAMBER VERDICT!

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    3. I AGREE ive posted BOY GEORGE COMMENTS FOR WKS JR A JERKOFF. they ssy all the sez and wife shit so he shuts it down and no body can talk about the trial its his family and wife. But he.s going to jail for a long long time.

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    4. he should get THE ELECTRIC CHAIR after all he FRIED MAZZUCAS BOBY AFTER HE KILLED HIM

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    5. Vella did his time for that killing over drugs & was even paid by the government...

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  32. Mr. Anastasia, what is going on down at the federal courhouse? I cant believe that they are going to go another day possibly without a agreement on these charges. The last jury took 21 days on a litany of charges against 7 defendants. We are on day 8 for two defendants and 5 charges. This is getting ridiculous for everyone involved. Anyway thanks for the updates. Let me know what you think of the current process. I hope today is the day but its looking like day 9 is coming.

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  33. I have sat hear day after day and read the statements of all your posts on here (No Balls Anonymous Posts). I was sentenced to 97 months in prison & 3 years supervised release. I came home to nothing. No Job, No Life, and most importantly No Mother. She died while I was incarcerated. I could have gotten a visit if after almost 5 years in prison I would have cooperated with the Federal Authorities on ongoing investigations. I elected to do my time like a man. I don't apologize to anyone for the actions that place me in jail. I do however owe an apology to my Mother who I couldn't be there for because of those actions. Today would have been my Mother's 82nd birthday had she lived. Today I live my life as a successful restaurant owner. Everything I have achieved I did through hard work and effort. Many, Many Many periods in which I received no pay in order to redeem myself not only in the eyes of society but in the eyes of both my deceased parents. I asked for nothing but the same rights anybody who wants to sucked in society and business is entitled to. Because of my felony I can't borrow SBA money. I was forced by the government to pay a fine in order to go into business. Guess what, bottom line I broke the law and paid my debt to society. I live my life with a different set of principles today. So I will not have the good name in which I work hard to re-establish be slandered by all the no name anonymous tough guys and gals on here. EVERYONE GROW UP AND GET A LIFE.

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    1. Hi ang wish u alot of luck in ur bussiness and ur right those cmments about u and alyson are uncalled for but those about BOY GEORGE I AGREE WIITH. GOOD LUCK IN UR BUSSINESS AND STAY AWAY FROM THE BUULLSHIT

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    2. Thanks ang someone who actually knows what there talking about these idiots on here have no idea what really goes on and hide behind annonymous but would never have the balls to say anything to anyone face and in sure your mother and father are watching you and are very proud of you congrats on the reastraunt

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    4. Alot of people r following this case but the comments on here r hardly ever about the case. Its seems to be a few people always say dumb shit on every story that gets posted and for that you should grow up

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    5. Thumbs up Ang!

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  34. HE.S GUILTY SPIN IT lie to ur selves. Ur related to him u know damn
    Right well why every body feels the way they do. He is a MANIPULATIVE CONIVING WIFE BEATING MURDEROUS JERK OFF AND JUDGEMENT DAY IS COMING! !

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  35. Mr. Lutz, could not agree with you more. You are a stand up guy with a fabulous restaurant. I am so sorry about how the loss of your mother happened while you were incarcerated and the federal government played fuc* fuc* with you and tried to hold that over your head to try and force you to cooperate. Much success to you and the Kitchem consigliere moving forward. You are definitely someone that everyone should look up to as a person who has successfully moved on from any transgressions from your past...god speed sir...

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  36. NOT GUILTY on all 5 counts .... read it and weap you HATERS!!!!!!! WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO ... Cone on home JOE!!!

    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/channel?section=news/local&id=8579059

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    2. Is there any indication that one is on the way?

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    4. Wow, I cant believe that its taking this long for two defendants and 5 charges. I thought the trials deliberations were ridiculous. This one is taking the cake. I just cant see them being unanimous after all this time.

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    5. I thought the last trials* deliberations

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    6. 6 ^^UP WISHFULL THINKING THERE SLAPPY MOE

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  37. Hey George A, is it true the jury wanted to hear more tapes today?

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  39. Tick tock tick tock goes the clock. We know theres a verdict on 2 counts hung on other three against uncle joe. Probably both looking guilty on racketering thats got 15 yrs all over it

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  40. If I were to speculate on what the 2 verdicts are I would lay odds they are not guilty on the witness tampering and possibly a guilty or not guilty one another Ligambi charge. The Racketeering Conspiracy charge if hung will bring about a third trial for sure and I dont think knowing how Judge Robreno has handled this case from the beginning that either Ligambi or Borgesi will get bail. That would be a shame but its just speculation at this point. Well see someday soon the outcome I hope.

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    1. I'd be surprised if the government wouldn't grant bail for a third trial. I belive even Judge Robreno would grant bail and the G may be able to work out stricter conditions if they worked together on an appropriate bail condition.

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  41. Probably not guilty on the tampering and one of tje gambling charges and hung on the rest.

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  42. LUTZ FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!

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    1. Ya angelo as mayor would be like having Angelo Erichetti Arnoid Webster and my camden fsvorite crook Uncle Milton Milan LoL! !"

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  43. •••••••••• wrong both charges are racketering......>>>>>>SORRY<<<<<<<<…

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  44. hey all you legal geniuses, if they had guilty on the 2 biggest charges, the rico conspicracy the feds wouldnt give a shit about everything else since that carries the biggest sentence...you people r morons and so are the feds & judge overseeing this case, nothing but a waste of tax money for nothing but gambling...wall st fucked you idiots more then the mob ever could

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  45. What happened today George A? , Any update on deliberations?

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  46. T thank u so much for ur legal advice i would think them verdicts are sealed with only the jurors knowing the decision
    And another thank u for letting us know how wall street screwed us all. Oh ya thank ur parents for money well spent im sure there very proud. Lol

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    1. the point was if they had 2 guiltys on the conspiracy they wouldnt give a shit if the other 3 charges were hung and the judge prolly would of ended it already.....

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  47. No decision was posted since then deleted i would guess article to follow soon.

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  48. Most of yous are dry snitches on here

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  49. Yesterday the news reported the city is tight on funds due to all the salt ,snow plowing ,gas expensives etc..But tons of money put towards an investigation against JL and GB ..Smfh ..Where's the knowledge in this city and our government etc..As well as schools closing ,teachers laid off year after year..Why is everything so backwards my goodlord ? Why are the Feds ,our government ,politicians so crooked ,it's disgusting and unfair to the good tax payers.Our children are growing up in such a bad country the USA..I refuse to have anymore children due to the crookedness in the USA.It's disgusting..Every dollar spent on this case could have went to schools,teachers,poverty,city repairs,firefighters,police,hospitals,disease research,education advertising and education upgrades,more money put to finding rapist,the countries most wanted,surveillance cameras in north and west Philly due to these overwhelming amount of crime in them areas.My heart is broken that our stripes and stars are disgraced by our own dirty leaders in this city,state,country.The Hod Lord must cry everyday ay the directness of this world and its terrible legal systems.The judge in this case should be ashamed of himself also.He should resign even before a verdict,outcome,And write" I am a dirty judge hoping the feds get a win cause they pushed me before this case to help incarcerate these men.And I don't deserve the honor to be a judge or leader".For he is a crooked judge andthe Goodlord knows he is.I also weep everyday to what our justice systems have turned into.A disgrace they are.A revolution should come our way oneday and throw every legal leader out of office across the USA.I pray and wish for a better tomorw but that will never happen.It's so so and heartwrenching.Every fed,politician,majority of legal leaders should be ashamed of themselves.And yes the Goodlord will judge everyone of them including the rest of humanity.So sad so so sad.Thus case is only an example of the Crums across our once beautiful country .

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    1. ^^ Here.s a towel for u and ur lord to wipe ur tears and get back in the game

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  50. Ah So philly those of u who dealt with BOY GEORGES BULL SHIT should be happy sometime next wk

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    2. Aspiring GrammatarianJanuary 23, 2014 at 9:07 PM

      Hey 2 PPl up. I totally get that you want Borgesi and whoever else to go to church. But please, for God's sake, use the proper contraction. It's "everyday YOU'RE on the street". What you are using shows ownership. Since you're on here quite frequently, plus I enjoy your rants - If you could make this small correction in your typing, I would be forever grateful. Thank you.

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    1. That's never got Arrested.

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    2. Why do you have such a hard on for Anthony Borgesi? Did he steal your girl? You probably kiss his ass if you ever spot him on the street I bet.

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    4. What's a matter the circus don't even want you ...

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    5. Why don't you answer the question? What did he do to you? Did you get beatin from him? And he don't ride his brothers coat tails...

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    6. He absolutely don't play gangster. He is well liked.

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  53. It's appalling that some people can hide behind anonymous and say ridiculous comments and not debate the case itself. How many of you all want to criticize on appearances, who a person is based on your view or opinion. I want you to ask yourself what people would say about you and what they think the kind person you are based on their view of you but not knowing you!? Judging someone based by looking at them from a far or even just speculating who they are inside. Calling a person a wannabe, playing gangster, or whatever shows the level of intellect you are. Stay on the case and the facts.

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  55. I saw what was just removed Anthony Borgesi has to act like a man. Removing blogs about the girls Icould see. He is a little cry baby.

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  56. The government is paying pple to write these bogus comments...only in America!!!

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  57. I thought we could talk about parts of the cast but i see all comments have been removed pertaining to Anthont RAT NOSE Borgesi. WHY?

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