Thursday, January 16, 2014

Deliberations Continue In Mob Trial

By George Anastasia
For Bigtrial.net

No questions...and no verdict.

After listening to about 15 minutes of taped conversation this morning, the jury in the racketeering conspiracy retrial of mob boss Joe Ligambi and his nephew George Borgesi hunkered down for a sixth day of deliberations.

The panel of 11 women and one man called it quits around 4 p.m. and headed home. They will be back at it tomorrow at 9:30. Looming is a three-day weekend (Monday is a federal holiday -- Martin Luther King Day), meaning that if there is no decision tomorrow, the case will go into next week.

While the group sent a note to Judge Eduardo Robreno Monday afternoon saying there was an "impasse" in deliberations, there has been no indication that the panel has bogged down since then.

Ligambi, 74, and Borgesi, 50, are both charged with racketeering conspiracy linked to what authorities say was an organized crime gambling and loansharking operation that ran from 1999 through 2011. Ligambi also faces two gambling charges and one count of witness intimidation.

Over the past two days the jury has asked to hear nearly two dozens secretly recorded conversations that were introduced as evidence during the eight-week. The panel has also asked about some specific pieces of evidence.

In the note it sent on Monday, the jury said it had voted twice on all five counts and had failed to reach a unanimous decision on any of them. Whether they have taken subsequent votes could not be determined.

The process continues tomorrow.

The jury in the first trial that ended in February deliberated for 21 days before coming back with a split decision. That case involved seven defendants and 62 counts. Four defendants were convicted, one was acquitted and the jury hung on the charges that Ligambi and Borgesi are again fighting.

George Anastasia can be contacted at George@bigtrial.net.

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  1. WoW. Still nothing. You gotta be kidding

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  2. You think this will be over by tomorrow???

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  3. these guys are innocent no doubt

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  4. Yea it's over no shot the jury wants to be there anymore ..not guilty will be the verdict .The boys are coming home tomorrow ..Verdict will be announced before noon..We will be eating lunch at Popi's

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    1. JL and GB & THE REST OF YOUR FRIENDS SHOULD GO TO CHRUCH EVERYDAY YOUR STILL ON THE STREET!!

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  5. Be Real these two FUCKS ARE COOKED!! GUILITY!!!

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    1. GO TO CHRUCH EVERYDAY YOUR or THEY R STILL ON THE STREET!!
      THAT's y

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  6. Has anyone not heard of spell check? #seriously?

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    1. EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY.

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  7. Hung on 2 counts!!

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  8. I want to see them beat this badly. The government is clearly out of control, the judge is bias, the FBI need another notch. Too many exaggerated lies, bad witnesses and the Feds don't care one bit about the taxpayers. They need to start looking into big corporations with their kickbacks to politicians and fraud they blantely get away with an tax dollars go floating down the street all to give them big corporations a pass. I doubt they are gonna beat it cause I see society is so easily manipulated an people go with what they hear not disyfer and hunt for the truth. Them jurors are from areas strange to vulgarity an put trust in the government as they are honest. Sorry but I'm ready for a guilty, as much as I want to see them beat it..

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    1. The feds are putting energy in the wrong indictments for sure but these guys don't belong on the streets. Pray for the families that were hurt by them.

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    2. I agree that the witnesses are terrible and I do agree to an extent that the FBI doesn't care about spending money on any case. I can assure you that they look at big corporations and politicians every single day, some of which do walk away unscathed and some which go to jail. The just is deadlocked, probably will be a hung jury.

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    3. I hope to God u NEVER have to have the gov help in a murder case....ppl blast the gov for keeping ppl like these guys off the street so they dont kill anymore..if these ppl did what they did to ur family. .who do u want to help but that murder away.shame on u .UJ had a 2nd chsnce to do good in life and came back out n did the same thing he did b4 .I dont thk he or that scum bag of a nephew should EVER WALKTON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH. THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY 100% DO IT AGAIN.I SAY THROW AWAY THE KEY N LET THEM ROT.

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    4. Stop bad mouthing the witnesses for taking a stand against killers; why should they go to jail for people who had hits on them. You should not get involved with them in the first place, but the witnesses are not killers the defendants are

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    5. Stop bad mouthing the witnesses?!?! Why should the witnesses go to jail?!?! Is it Monacello who drove around in his Cadillac with a smug cocky arrogance and is he the one who self admitted he kicked a guy in the face? Is he the guy who bragged he tied a kid up in the basement of his corny named restaurant "Govones"?? Doing this in the name of someone else? Isnt he a son of a cop? Did His daddy teach him not to be violent? He used peoples name to do what he wanted and not caring about the outcome. He is a self proclaimed "karate expert". Isn't Karate to be self-defense not the aggressor?!?! He obviously is all about his EGO and careless about the victims he beat and stole money from. Monacello couldn't face his punishment like a man so he cried to the FBI. If he was such a tough guy and he had a alleged "hit" on him than why wouldn't he go and defend him self?!?! Nooo.. he liked being the bully on weak guys. Typical of most guys who learn self defense their arrogance and EGO makes them become thugs, not humble.
      What about Aponick!!?? He robbed banks in the witness program and using a weapon. What about the incident with his wife driving in a car, what he did to her?? Do the 11 women on the jury know about that? I wonder how they would feel about him if they new how he treats women. Try to find out about that, its horrendous what he did to her!! Don't tell me they are not the violent ones. They chose that life and they didn't care who they hurt and knowing there maybe a day they have to face the music (jail). They are selfish dregs in society and they will hurt more people again once they are released back into society. Most of them always use the FBI and then go back out and hurt society again.
      To whom may have family or friends who died to alleged "mob" violence. Wake up! They and yourselves enjoyed the ride when it was good. How many people did your friend or family member hurt all to inflate their EGO and money to walk around like a God in small little S.Philly?? You didn't care about those families did you?!?! God works in mysterious way, doesn't he??? Maybe if you were a better Mother,Father, Sister, Brother and or Friend, maybe the wouldn't of been harmed. I humble say that with regrets I,m sure some of those tried to set good example and showed loved, but they chose a different path.
      After this is over, life goes on and let the man upstairs be the judge..

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    6. U SHOULD HAVE BEEN A FICTION WRITER CORLEAONE

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    7. Yes with records posted of what OFFICE she really worked at in 2005!!!!

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  9. EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY

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  10. Something is up in Denmark.

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  11. The govenment has all the time and money.

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    1. Your Right they r VERY VERY RICH .

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  12. Yeah. All Taxpayers $$.

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  13. Hope JoenLigambi gets 20yrs and lives 19 and dies a horriblle Death in JAIL.

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    1. or maybe a quick death and not waste taxpayers money

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    2. I hope the same for you. Why shouldn't I ... you didn't do anything to deserve that either.

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    3. If I did what he did I'd want a quick death too

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    4. How do you know he did anything if you do why didn't u testify

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    5. What makes you think you know he's innocent? it's also not murder trial; read the paper

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  14. I wonder how much traffic will be on this site after this enormous waste of a trial is over. George A, what do you think.

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    1. I'd rather have fewer comments and less vitriol. But unfortunately that's the nature of the "new" media we're all dealing with. Would like to move on to covering the Scarfo trial and the Mastronardo case, also Galati and Nicodemo. Let's all try to stayed focused on the issues.

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    2. Agreed George. I would like to have more info on those cases as well

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    3. I usually scroll through the comments, to see if George A comments on anything. Other than that, the comments are worthless. This "new" media blows. I miss my ink stained fingers with nothing but my own thoughts after I read an article!

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    4. George cover the Masternardo's there bookmaking operation doesn't have a lot of italians on the surface but behind closed doors you know what it is. Write about them, and the Scarfo Trial we all know there going down for at least 15 years

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  15. You people are a bunch of uneducated, unthinking group if you think for a second that someone should "rot in jail for the rest of their life" for poker machines. Poker machine that you all played. Or football bets that you all made. Or them lending money to people who can't go to the bank for it. That's just horrible isn't it. You would all get a slap on the wrist, just probation, nothing more. But Joe should get life. Let the punishment fit the crime.

    The best part is there is still no proof that he had anything to do with it. It is innocent until proven guilty for a good reason. You all think he's guilty because you "heard it on the news or from George A ... Well then it must be true, right? You all have no facts, just what people have said "this is what you should believe". There is nothing here. Nothing. You have no facts at all, beside the speculation you read in the paper.

    How come not one person doesn't think it's a crime that an innocent man has spent a couple of years of his life in prison for poker machines. What if he's found innocent. Or better yet what if he actually is. What kind of justice is that that the Feds can come in and say, "oh you were given bail by the judge, well we won't allow that". You can be next to have your rights stripped from you. You better hope that it doesn't happen to you.

    "OF Equality—As if it harm’d me, giving others the same chances and rights as myself—As if it were not indispensable to my own rights that others possess the same".
    - Walt Whitman - Leaves of Grass

    The same can happen to you .
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    1. Like I been saying. Biggest waste of time and $$. Free UJ. The Feds should go after some real criminals. But they are scared of what I really dont know. This vendetta against the mafia is like 1970's type of accomplishments. Fuckin jackoffs

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    2. I also find it hard to believe that any person would want another to rot in jail for a poker machine, a bet or a high interest loan.

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    3. JAA, I don't think they are posting about poker machines, football pools or high interest loans and wanting the defendants to rot in jail for that. I believe they are talking about other unsubstantiated crimes such as murder. Let's face it, they are exactly alter boys on trial here. If found guilty, the punishment needs to fit the crime and I am sure it will.

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    4. "JAA, I don't think they are posting about poker machines, football pools or high interest loans and wanting the defendants to rot in jail for that". Well that's what they are on trial for ... nothing more.

      "I believe they are talking about other unsubstantiated crimes such as murder. Let's face it, they are exactly alter boys on trial here. If found guilty, the punishment needs to fit the crime and I am sure it will". What are you going on , stories you heard at the local dinner? You guys need to stop acting like you know things that you don't. You all assume that Joe Ligambi did these things. How do you know that? You don't, you just want to act like you know. So please, stop acting like some story you heard is true, when you have no clue ... no clue.

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    5. The key word was "unsubstantiated," Websters defination: unproven or unvarified alligations. Nobody is claiming to know anything or acting as if to know anything. However, the undeniable fact is they are not on trial because they were late for band practice.

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    6. What the fuck r u abt hes a no good fucking guy DO U ALL FORGET HE KILLED FRANKIE FLOWERS R U PPL INSANE .MY MY HOW WE ALL FORGET SO SOON

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    7. No we didn't forget about Frankie Flowers and nobody but maybe two people in this world know if he def did or not. But Frankie chose that life when the money was coming in im sure use were all happy. My Uncle was killed in the Ricobene wars i hold no grudge he was the first one killed so if u know anything about any of this you know who it is. But that is the life he chose......

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    8. ^^ Finally someone who gets it they chose the life and the consequences thank u one of few sensible things written on here lately.

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  16. If the govt was getting a cut of Dodge City proceeds or a small % of some loan, they wouldn't even be in prison. Thats all that this is about when you break it down. They're just mad they didn't get a cut. Go ahead. Tell me im wrong

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    1. You're 100 percent right!!! The Governmment is the real EXTORTIONISTS!!!

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  17. Just like how state by state marijuana is becoming legal. As long as uncle sam gets his cut its no problem.

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  18. Cigarettes, Booze, Guns. Hurt or kill more people every minute than gambling or whatever can EVER hurt. But Uncle sam gets his cut so its fine. Is that how it works.

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  19. Tell me Im wrong. Dicksteen

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  20. Did the fixer steal that name from Captain Lou Albano in "Wiseguys" with Joe Piscopo and Danny DeVito. I believe So. Fuckin Fraud

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  21. They did it Europe they have poker machines controlled by the government. More money for more entitlements, and that's not working out too well. No opputunity for small business to make extra money and no entrepreneur spirit. Socialism is here now. The government needs more revenue to keep people poor and on the dole. Taking away everything except for the rich and corporate America.

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  22. Joe Ligambi Killed Frankie flowers he also gave the HIT orders for Long John, Gongs,the Nicadimo hit, and many moore people don't even know about. This Trash Needs To DIE In JAIL!

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    1. Wow. Easy Sleezy

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    2. That is all hear say, you have no idea of any "hits" so stop it. You're making an ass of yourself. I think you saw one to many wise guy movies. Forgettabout it. Stop talking like you got the inside info. You are just stating some bullshit you heard from a friend ... tell me I'm right ... OK you don't have to say it, I know.

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    3. I do agree that comment about "hits" needs to be removed. That is unproven speculation and should be deleted. There are family members reading these blogs, particulary the children of the defendants and even the family members of the deceased. Please keep the civility in the post.

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    4. The person writing all about Uncle Joe is a relative of Frankie Flowers who my fathers close friend as a kid i called him Uncle Frank and im related in any way. But even if i can prove who did it THIS IS THE LIFE THE CHOOSE

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    5. and uj went too John, Gongs mass after her HAD HIM KILLED DON'T 4get THAT!!!!!!!! GOOD MOVE JOE!!!!!! HOW ABOUT THAT??????????????????

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  23. Hate to break your heart but Im pretty sure that the case is based upon gambling and poker machines. Dick

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  24. Editor, you really need to delete 2up unless they wanna reveal themself

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  25. Well listen DICk I'm done for the night but Joe Ligambi is DONE so ill hit you up tom so I could laugh . Remember uncle Joe did 10 years for a Murder charge he will be ok I'm sure he has some old Murder friends who will help him out. Good Night JerkOff!

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    1. An unjust murder charge that was over turned. because of lies like this.

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    2. Its Dickstein frankie

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    3. Goodnight mary

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  26. Guilty ON 3 COUNTS....

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  27. and uj went too John, Gongs mass after her HAD HIM KILLED DON'T 4get THAT!!!!!!!! GOOD MOVE JOE!!!!!! HOW ABOUT THAT??????????????????

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    1. Thats what they do them crumbs

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    2. The guy you mentioned who died, wasn't he alleged to attempt to kill someone an or has cause physical and mental harm on people in his past..? Or maybe that's just a bad rumor...?

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  28. Feds need to put the Philadelphia Parking Authority on trial . Foreal serious scumbag liget criminals . PPA = LEGAL MAFIA

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  29. verdict on 2 counts hung on 3 others - judge sends jury back

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  30. Update on deliberations. Jury has a partial verdict. Has decided two counts but has a "firm difference of opinion" on there others.
    No way to know which counts or whether guilty of innocent.
    Judge sent them back to keep trying. This all happened around 11:30.

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    1. Do you think they finish this case today or take a long weekend and continue to decide

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  31. Clarification. Hung on three and no way to know guilty OR innocent on the two that have been decided.

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    1. George i know your suppose to be inpartial but the judge seems to keep forceing the jurors obviously they cant agree what do you think

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    2. This is standard in a long trial, but at some point enough is enough. I think we're getting to that point.

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  32. Thanks for update george keep us posted

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  33. Clarify your clarification George, are they hung on 3 counts as in sent back in by judge to keep trying or hung as in judge agrees and we need to just wait on verdict of remaining 2?

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    1. Hung on three. Decided two. But we don't know which two or which way,

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  34. Exonerated-- absolve (someone) from blame for a fault or wrongdoing, esp. after due consideration of the case.

    Go home, and move on. Give our tax dollars a break.

    Judge Rubreno I guess you want to make up their mind for them..?

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    1. Hthis judge is unbelivable he hands prosecuters whatever they want this judge should be removed

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    2. Labor and Han don't care its not their dime. I wonder if they could hold a job down in the private sector where they are held accountable for a company profit and losses

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  35. George:
    would the judge do a partial reading in the afternoon ecspecially if one of the counts is for georgie since its only one count?

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    1. Don't know. The defense might have to request that but the judge has final say on the process.

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  36. It said in Philly.com that they reached a verdict on two charges against THEM, doesn't that mean the two charges has to be the rackateering since that's the same charge against both of them?

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  37. I agree george enough is enough the jurors pbviously want to be done with this trial and i think by keep forceing them back there just going to agree on something just to be done with the trial

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  38. 3 up - i dont think thats the way to interpret that article although i see your point. probably poor choice of phrasing the article...like George said, impossible to know the decision and which counts

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  39. GEORGE A. IF THEY COME WITH A HUNG JURY! CAN THE JUDGE FIND THEM GUILTY. OR NOT GUILTY????

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    1. hey george with all the cases you have been on whats your real thoughts ???

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  40. Hey George A - Thanks for the updates, we really appreciate your insight & time. Thanks for dealing the the B.S. that people have been posting & your work on this.

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  41. THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH GEORGE A. HOW MUCH TIME CAN THEY GET FOR THE COUNTS?????

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  42. Two counts decided lets look in to the crystal ball and the verdict for uncle Joe not guilty the verdict for the only charge for BOY GEORGE is GUILTY AS CHARGED UR HONOR BYE BYE BOY GEORGE

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  43. Boy George could get 14years!!!!!!!

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  44. GUILTY ON 4 COUNTS NOW!!;

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  45. Thanks for your work on this blog, George A.

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  46. As a result of the constant mud slinging, the administrator decided to discontinue posts on the other story. Can't say I blame him as many of the post were way below the belt (on both sides), but it doesn't surprise me. As a parent or family member of the defense, of course you'd want your father or son to come home. It goes without say, regardless of their innocence or guilt or what you may or may not know about them. As a family member of the government witnesses, you want the defendants locked up, which is also understandable. Somehow, this trial turned into the Defendants vs the "Rats." There is no condoning either side in this trial. Neither are angels! The last time I checked the indictment, it read the United States of America vs (the defendants). As for the families of the deceased, you need to take a step back and ask yourselves "why" did this happen, instead of trying to paint a picture of innocense and sympathy. I'm sure they were all good guys and didn't deserve being murdered, but as everyone knows, this is and was the life they have chosen. When an athlete takes the field, they accept the consequences that every play may be their last play. This is life and if you can't accept it, then don't come out of the confines of your 4 walls. So what's my point? All of you need to take a step back and think a moment before you make another slanderous post about a defendant, a witness, the deceased, the family members, the judge, the jury, the prosecutor and finally George Anastasia. Many of you (on either side) are not going to like it, because the truth does hurt and I understand that as well. In the end, the jury will decide on this case and eventually one day the Lord up above.

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    1. Couldnt agree with u more. U r the wise one in this comment section. I also think if George A. Could close out the anonomous section, there would b less bashing, ridiculing,etc. Im not perfect, but the only way I learn is when a comment I made gets deleted. ~peace~

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  47. Couldn't agree more. As a matter of fact, here's my two pennies.

    The mafia, the bad guys, you and the prosecution, the good guys. These so called hardened criminal, who take bets, loanshark money and extort people are really bad people. That is what many of you truly believe. And Joe should go to jail for the rest of his life. I find that appalling. I made some comments to George Anastasia that he didn't like nor agreed with them. Well the truth hurts, all the information you hear is just that hearsay. You all play whisper down the lane, with each person adding to, and/or taking from the story, “just a little bit,” until you are left with some twisted version of the truth. You people think because George Anastasia heard something in confidence, or the Government says it, then it’s true. In reality, you have no idea what the truth is. Stop making judgments about things when you don't even know the facts. Most of you don't even know the lies that the prosecution has made, let alone the facts that they presented.

    .If you can say you nor anyone in your family, NEVER, not even once cheated on your taxes, and I mean not even one single made up donation or little white lie; never made a Superbowl bet, not even through someone else; never once participated in a sports block-pool at a bar or at work; or never once played a poker machine at a bar, then you stand almost alone with very, very few people in Philadelphia. You are part of the elite few.

    What is so wrong with making a monetary bet. Gambling is not illegal in PA. Well not if you have a license. So they are really just operation without a license, now aren’t they. By history, the Philadelphia Mafia, at one time made the majority of its money from 3 digit lottery bets. The State and Federal Government wanted in on the action. So they made a judicial inequity, the RICO Act, which took simple, slap-on-the-wrist, misdemeanors, and turned them into felonies with extraordinary sentences. (20 years in prison for discussing the possibility of taking sports bets but not even doing it). Then after they got rid of the “no goods”, they opened up shop. The Pennsylvania Lottery is thriving today and the saving grace for the state of Pennsylvania. Most people have no problem with that situation. George says things like, [The Philadelphia Mafia is nothing more than a watered down version of what it use to be...] Yes that is because the State and Federal Governments, muscled their way in and took over the Mafia's operations many years ago.

    Then there's the loansharking. People who go to the Mafia, or its accociates, are people who can't go to banks for a loan. They are too high of a risk or have no collateral. I don't see the harm, nor the crime in lending these people money at a very high interest rate. I see it as providing a service that the banks are no longer willing to make for the high risk. This is done illegally on a daily basis, right out in the open. It's called a payday loan. Most check cashing establishments throughout the city, provide this service. The are multiple television ads throughout the day, offering this service. Yes they make the loan terms seam lower with service fees, but it is actually higher than the usury limit in PA (unsecured loans > $50,000 is a 36% limit. (side note, RICO says one must be double the usury limit to have a charge of loansharking)) The prosecution presented was zero evidence to convict on loansharking.

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  48. part 2

    As far as extortion, if it did ever occur, was probably a “pay us the money you owe or we will...” Well people, there is probably no one in existence that has borrowed money from the Mafia, and DIDN'T know this might be part of the deal. If you owed me $20,000 and said you don';t have it to pay back, trust me, even I'm kicking your ass. Also, if you are upset that someone may have been forced to turn over their business or possessions over, well that’s what the bank and IRS do when you don't pay them.

    You can say “In the end, breaking the law is breaking the law,” but come on people, 15-20 years for a bet or a loan … We give rapist and murderers half of that. Let's let the punishment fit the crime.

    If you want someone to point the finger at and call the bad guy, how about a group of people who put an innocent guy in prison for the past 2 years. As of this second, Joe Ligambi has no real hard evidence against him. Just a couple of guys saying, “He did it, he did it. It is him, not me, that should be going to jail”.

    You can call this a justification, and maybe it is … but it's just how I see it.

    Now the Feds are taking away your rights as a citizen, one by one and you all sit and watch. Yet you have the gall to call them the good guys. Good luck with that...

    JAA

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  49. I've learned more in ur two postings than I have in the past 9 weeks. TY for sharing what I dont have time to research. (RICO,PA gambling history,check cashing places). Back to work. I still hope the verdict comes NG.

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    1. Does she kill people to like him?

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    1. Who knows whats on Alyson Borgesis mind is she waiting for her husband to get out or to get charged with Murder.

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  53. Wow! more allegations! Well how about these allegations or is it truth...does the average citizen and most of all the JURY realize what Aponick did when he was in the witness program and the FBI and prosecution did everything to cover it up? Robbing Bank with a lethal weapon, what he did to his wife while driving in a car? As its alleged. I hope she recovered well, I don't know how many people can recover from being thrown out a car at high speed, if there is any truth to it..? Isnt the FBI suppose to be the LAW? Maybe that's all a rumor?? Maybe the FBI can explain it...

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    1. yes this Aponick guy is nom good,but Alyson Borgesi is also involved in criminal day to day mob business. strange thing for a feamale ,but the is on the tape cant dispute that.

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    2. that's the proff is on the tapes

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  54. Aponick might be a bank robber,but he had no major benefit in testifying against George Boregsi and the meeting he had at Ralphs rest, in so philly with Monacello is going to sink Borgesi especially since the Idiot Borgesi call them during the meeting and speaks to both of them on the cell ph. How FUCKIN DUMD CAN GEORGE BORGESI BE! He is going to get his uncle convicted to because of his big mouth and he outs Frank THE fixex on the stand to boot, his uncle must want to kill him.

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    1. speakin of the Fixer I think George Borgesi wants to make shore his uncle gets found guility because Borgesi wanted to use the Fixer, Ligambi dident.

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    2. I think the jury realizes that Ligambi and Borgesi HATE each other. this is crazy all the mob on the street must be laughing at these two guys. especially Borgesi his mouth and his wife Alyson started all this gossip and trouble. I even think his made so called friends in the mob don't want to see him get out!

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    3. It sounds like you HATE them, or maybe just Borgesi and your wishing division on them and wishing future harm on Borgesi if he gets out. You maybe using this blog to put things in other people heads to put him in harms way. I would hope that his friends do get sucked into reading malicious blogs like yours and are intelligent enough to understand that what was done to convict him can also be done to them by the FBI and use any of their lackey's that hang around with them for potential informants. Sorry pal but if the FBI wants you, they can make you out to be a villain or even worse. Just think how you would sound on a recording when you have been in a argument or even joking, using vial language. I,m sure it wouldn't sound like a bed time story..it would make you crawl up into a ball. Trying to stir the pot isn't gonna work, you should be more angry how the government has become more like the so-called 'Mob"

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    4. Correction, I would hope that his friends DON'T get sucked into reading malicious blogs like yours and are intelligent enough to understand that what was done to convict him can also be done to them by the FBI and use any of their lackey's that hang around with them for potential informants.

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  55. if uncle Joe goes to jail its George Borgesis fault.

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    1. your right Borgesi destroyed his uncle in this case.

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    2. How can you blame him for the charges against his Uncle? It wasn't him that wore the wire in the Chop House and he had nothing to do with that at all. That was a FBI agent some how infiltrated them. It wasn't him who had anything to do with the gambler who wore the wire on the other co-defendant who was sentenced in the last trial, and that tape is being used against his Uncle,he had nothing to do with that. He had nothing to with Skins Steffanelli who wore a wire that is being used against the Uncle. What I,m trying to say its no ones fault. The FBI are using any bit of useless tapes, informants they can get and they and putting a spin on everything in court. They are just throwing a buch of crap against the wall and hoping for something to stick. Remember everything sounds worse than it actually is when its on paper and on recording. They don't even have him GB on recording saying anything about his Uncle or other co-defendants. They don't even have him talking with Monacello about any conspiracies that is alleged. Monacello said he went to see him all those years but the Prison has no recordings that they monitor of any discussions. Call it maybe bad choice of friends, but nobody can predict someone else actions when they have to face time in jail. It wasn't his fault for all the other guys who become paid informants like, Leonetti, Crow, Tom Del, Veasey, Previte, etc, etc...

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    3. Yes but uncle Joe dident want the fixer on the stand and Borgesi wouldent listen it hurt Joes case. that's what Joe thinks,and worse than that George Borgesi gives an interview over the ph from jail to William Bender from the phila daly news on Nov 1st called the BORGESI RANT on the eve of the trial bashing the Judge and the Government,and one the other end of the line Anthony Borgesi who is with Bender make RACIAL SLERS AGAINST Al Sharpton and African Americans and I know there are Black people on the JURY. Borgesis mother was a part of it to. That's why uncle Joe is so mad at them I mean how Fuckin dum can Anthony Borgeri be. he puts it in the news paper that the BORGESI FAMILY HATES BLACK PEOPLE! If he is racsist he should have kept it to him self. I hope for uncle Joes sake none of the jurors read that NOV1ST ARTICLE BEFORE TOM MORN.

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    4. OK, valid point, I didn't know that the "fixer" was something the uncle didn't want, but didn't the lawyers discuss it as a group before they put him up there ? I only read what has been on this site. I just seen he testified again and didn't help as much in last trial. I'm also in disagree of what was said also by the family. Lets keep in mind they are not the first family to make off the cuff comments that are irrelevant to the case. Just rewind to some other trails in the past. They made a mistake, I,m sure their emotions let that get the best of them and they needed to get their voice heard. The feds have been playing really dirty, im thinking they are frustrated and exhausted. They must of been thinking its a way to get back at them(feds). It don't look good on paper but I,m sure it wasn't said in a way to target anyone one group or any one person. Just bad choice of words at a bad time. Just hope for the jury to realize the credibility of the paid informants and the validity of their testimony and they are released.

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    5. Listen im friends with Joe and he thinks the actions of the Borgesis during the course of this trial have helped the Government. George Borgesi insisted the Fixer take the stand as their whitness. Jacobs,Warren and Ligambi dident want him up there he just confirmed that Joe is the boss and George is a captain. Geirge and his brother out in the news paper remarks about Al Sharpton and Black people,Mannie his mother talks about the judge and gov as the trial begins,and the best one of all Alyson Borgesi gets kicked out of the court room for stairing down feamale jurors. come on that's why Joes is pissed off. this is like a bad movie for him having to be on trial with the Borgesi family.Happy MLK DAY to any black jurors from the Borgesi FAMILY....................

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    7. Well if your friends with the family than just hope for the best. What the family said or his wife starring at a juror isn't anything incriminating. The jury said they didn't feel intimidated. George is the one on trail not them. Playing devils advocate, do you think she was starring down a juror to intimidate anyone, do you think maybe looking for some kind reaction to read the juror ? If you know them ask her. I,m on the same side with you, I hope they both beat it. By you pointing at the family and speaking on behalf of the what the Uncle thinks is only giving more unnecessary privileged info out there to anyone who maybe reading this, including possibly any juror. You are adding more problems that can help get your friend the Uncle get convicted. That's no different than the family and their outburst. Just saying, neither them or you are on trial.

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    8. Well you tell that to Joe Ligambi he want to kill George and Anthony and this point I don't think he cares who knows it. have a good day.

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    9. Ok, if you keep speaking on behalf of what he thinks and what he cares than please mention who you are so he knows that you are out there speaking on what he thinks or cares. And even saying he wants harm on his nephews. You are not much better than them..cool down..hope for the best

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    10. To the guy who stated he is a friend of the Uncle. You stated the brother Anthony "made a a racial slur against African-Americans and Al Sharpton and you pointed out the date when he said those things, well thank you and I went back to that article. To my surprise it was there but you were inaccurate on what he said. He only state that his brothers rights were being violated, which they were, and he only said "where is our Al Sharpton"? also he said if his brother was black the country would be in a uproar, which he is correct. He did not decimate or slander Al Sharpton and or the Black community if anything he complimented them and how they pull together if a black man was being denied bail and his right were being violated as such his brothers were. He is correct, and that's NOT A RACIAL SLUR, AND NO WHERE DOES HE SAY THE FAMILY HATES BLACK PEOPLE, YOU ARE 100% WRONG!! You my friend are promoting a racial issue. What are you doing trying to ruin it for them all and act as your siding with your friend, sorry, that's smoke and mirrors. You should hope your friend don't catch wind of you re-igniting more irrelevant comments. Go and Re-Read that are article. Also he didn't say anything about wishing someone else back in jail, only stated his brother is being held while other guys from the same case are out from years ago, why? What are the feds doing holding him without bail after a hung jury they should allow him out. I can see threw the lines how many people like yourself are trying keep turmoil within their friendships and families by being extra sensitive and antennas up on what they say or do just to keep pot stirring. Wish them all luck...

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    11. George and Anthony Borgesi Hate the Government,thr Judge and Black people and they put it in the NEWS PAPER

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  56. I think Aponick is killing Alyson Borgesi on this site. He is getting even with Alyson for putting him and his familys info on RAT.COM. MAYBE THATS WHY HE TESTIFIED

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    1. The feds dont want aponick or montecello on this site till this thing is done and even then if there in wit protection def not so blame somebody else these boys aren.t gonna fuck this payday up till after the trial.

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  57. With all that said and finger pointing the FBI the tapes BOY GEORGE talking on the phone intro ducing aponick indirectly to montecello his wifes antics u really believe the jury is gonna find him not guilty he.s doing another 15 yrs and his afiliation with the mob is done. He.s his own worst enemy he can.t shut up and for thst they will stay clear of him except for family. He will not rat because he cant give them any body big enough including joey stevie johnny lance marty uj he.ll still have to do at least yrs for that bullshit so he wont make any deal but u can best believe one them i mentioned will not sure which but its inevitable one good thing. SO PHILLY WONT SEE THE LIKES OF BOY GEORGE EVER AGAIN AND THAT IS THE COLD HEARTED TRUTH NO MATTER HOW U SPIN IT.

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    1. LETS PRAY TO GOD THATS TRUE AND BORGESI ROTS IN JAIL UNTIL THE END OF TIME

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  58. Steve MAzzone should be on trial !!!!! That Fruit Cake!)" He's A RAT,,,,,,,,.........

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    1. Come on man stevie not on trial u start and the rest start then hes gonna shut all of it down and then will have no recourse we all heard the stevie alyson lance rat bullshit follow the trial do u think ur friend Boy george is guilty yes or no

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  59. George is guilty!! Soo is Steve mazzone!

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    1. Im sure when the next crew member talks somebody will give them the mike avacoli aka Dutch murder stevie and others will be inBOY GEORGES SHOES

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  60. Yesssss the Rico murder charges are coming next trial then we'll see who is stand up guy cuz!!!!!!!!!

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  61. Any more people talk there wont be any standing up.

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  62. FBI gotta em all leaning now alittle gust of wind they.ll fall like domimo.s most of these guys fall in that 3strike rule the judge will hand out 20yrs like phillies hand out hot dogs on dollar dog nights . Lol! !!

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    1. Will you be in the court room with verdict? Make sure you are cheering out loud so everybody can see you, and anybody else who maybe feeling same. I guess you will be looking to fill their shoes, I bet you could be the man! "boss"

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    2. Who the fuck said anything about boss better yet who would wanna be a boss or a mobster hell i made more money yesterday than most make Who a year and no envolopes to nobody would.nt wanna be them guys for all the money in the world not for me cant trust none of them

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    3. ^^2up hey cuz who would wanna be in court for a verdict unless ur family u dont need to einstein to figure out this jury verdict is guilty of racketering both counts 15 yrs got it

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  63. There coming big time!!!!! Their looking at life with the next trial. People are going too be shocked when the they hear who's RATING!!!!!!!!!;,,,,,,,,,,,

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  64. Boss of what!!!!!!! The Fairy Mob LMAO!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,

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  65. U gotta be a flat out idiot lto be involved with this shit one way ticket to jail or death.

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  66. I guess no court tmrw with snow coming.

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  67. We forgot about Nippi. Borgesi Killed him to. Man this George Borgesi is the next SON OF SAM!!

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  68. Between Nippi and Dutchie we have 6 murders figured out by Borgesi 5 left to post who knows the info?

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    2. Hey dident Borgesi take a Big Bite out of Angelo Lutzs FAR HEAD?

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  69. Maconni was one ^^

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  70. Jimmy Bromms^^ was another

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  71. Ok brooms is one u need 1 moore

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  72. Yes Louie Irish were cookin now! Borgesi Killed. Him to. Good JoB!!

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  73. If this is true he fits the pattern if a seriial killer with these traits list .
    Vandilism fraud theft bullism as a child fire we know abot the burning of the body beating of women or weak people wife and lutz sgakes and twitches are signs look it up before u say im making this up also homo phobic ten dences u know about the hotel incident with these traits i pretty sure he fits the serial killer qualifications look this stuff up he fits the profile this guy ur neighbor brother uncle friend father he.s a flat out sick person and use want him out makes u wonder birds of a feather flock together u sick fucks and they know who i am.

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  74. Cotinued makes u really think and open ur eyes a little bit doesnt it if have the shit they say is true and i know not proven yet u gotta wonder what type person BOY GEORGE REALLY is.
    Sorry about some of the misspelled words up top.

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  75. LOOKS LIKE MOBSTERS OF BROTHERLY GONNA BE DELAYED FOR A COUPLE DAYS

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  76. I was hoping it would be over so we can get the trial of the Gentleman Gambler Joe mas that mobster lovers is a man truly being rail roaded this is a trial of tax payer money being wasted this guy is my idol in the gambling bussiness as we know it nothing but class

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  77. Does anyone know if court was canceled today because of snow or are they in today

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  78. Wait till the next trial!! Rico Murder Charges People Will Be SHOCKED WHOSE RATING!!!;,,,,,,,,,,,,,)

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  79. ANTHONY BORGESI NEVER WORKED A DAY IN HIS LIFE . NEVER ARRESTED BUT GOES ON ALOT OF VACATIONS. WORDS OUT HE GIVE INFO TO THE FEDS FOR THAT LIFESTYLE. HE IS NOW KNOWN AS RAT NOSE BORGESI.

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  80. HE LIKE TO GO TO CA. AND HANG WITH ACTORS AND LIVE A BIG LIFE STYLE WITH NO JOB. GOT THE MONEY FROM THE FEDS TO LIVE LIKE THIS. HE NOW IS RAT NOSE ANTHONY BORGESI

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    1. Do the feds give money to rat nose Anthony for roids to?

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    2. Good question his brother George has been in the MOB for years but wont talk to rat nose about business like murders so he has probably been a low paid informant all threw the 80s and 90s but now RAT NOSE MUST BE GIVIN SOME BETTER INFO SINCE HIS BROTHERS IN JAIL AND LOST HIS MIND THE LAST14 YRS. HE MUST HAVE WORMED INFO OUT OF HIM ON PRISON VISITS. RAT NOSE VISITED HIS BROTHER ALMOST EVERY WEEK DROVE TO WEST VA. AND THEN GOT PAID BY THE FED AFTER THE VISITS. THATS FUCKED UP!

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  81. Well it make sense now. I don't no this Rat Nose Anthony well "but the puzzle fits. Its ashame for his uncle Joe on trial with this Rat Nose in his Family.

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  82. Today is the day all u bleeding heart fucks BOY GEORGE and THE MOBSTERS OF BROTHERLY LOVE get
    theres today u fuckfaces.

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  83. MOBSTERS AS THE TAPES TURN get there sorry fucking answers today cus finally over. 15yrs ya_______

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