tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post7980504563998244547..comments2023-10-22T09:32:13.417-04:00Comments on Big Trial | Philadelphia Trial Blog: The Deer In The HeadlightsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04116104602505815614noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-29364367515360506972015-03-07T07:35:46.624-05:002015-03-07T07:35:46.624-05:00You've hit the nail on the head re: your suspi...You've hit the nail on the head re: your suspicion about the plaintiff's sexuality being at the root of this persecution. It's never too late to throw a beat down on the Catholic Church for her position on gay 'marriage', and it is ever-so easy to just trump up a claim from decades ago, that in the current climate of suspending laws, and logic, is state sponsored, as well as supported by a significant portion of the secular culture. <br /><br />We are witnessing a modern-day witch hunt based in bigotry; hatred for anything Christian, and most certainly anything Catholic- the last institution willing, and able, of standing against the total moral and ethical collapse of western culture. Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-73166178450087810372015-03-06T20:58:36.268-05:002015-03-06T20:58:36.268-05:00Just because one is not an obvious bigot, as you a...Just because one is not an obvious bigot, as you are, does not mean one is an apologist- one may just simply be honest. You have a thoroughly evident hatred for Catholics, therefore, your skewed views and opinions (and nothing more since you clearly struggle with truths and evidence) about accused priests are highly colored by your hatred. <br /><br />I don't know if this accused priest is guilty, and neither do you. That fact we have in common. Where we differ, tremendously and significantly, is since I have no dog in this fight, i.e. I don't hate Catholics, I am willing to consider this man innocent, as we all should, until a jury determines otherwise. <br /><br />Of course you have an aversion to all Catholics, we already have that fact established by your own bigoted words right here. You should be thankful that Catholics are not considered a 'protected class', such as are gays or Muslims and other minorities, lest the thought police be knocking on your door in the middle of the night to haul you off to reeducation camp. <br /><br />Beware the precedents re: statutes of limitations and evidence you and your cohorts so eagerly set in order to trap Catholics, that nasty old dog could turn on it's owner soon enough. Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-8334702225974257472015-03-06T20:36:42.726-05:002015-03-06T20:36:42.726-05:00You apparently can't read, or you lie - I subm...You apparently can't read, or you lie - I submitted no comments about any jury. My focus is on lying so-called 'victims', while all you care about is persecuting priests. <br /><br />Your own lying words reveal your true intentions- which are to punish Catholics, even if it means sending innocents to prison. . Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-71061999674450177592015-03-06T18:43:23.524-05:002015-03-06T18:43:23.524-05:00You were one of those at the top of the list to ba...You were one of those at the top of the list to bad mouth that jury. How come no words out of your mouth now ? You and I even Billy Doe did not send Lynn to prison but Pasternak did. Are things different now because he is giving testimony in the defense of someone he calls and calls your saintly Lynn a monster ?<br /><br />Those religious undertones are only the titles you have given these abusive priests. Saint, martyr etc. Why are they not good now ?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-18529453728510017242015-03-06T18:19:33.694-05:002015-03-06T18:19:33.694-05:00I am telling you how I would defend myself. I wou...I am telling you how I would defend myself. I would stand up, look the jury and my accuser square in the eyes and tell the truth. I would act like a "man of God" is supposed to act, answer every question honestly and directly. If I thought it was alright to take young boys into my room or bed at night I would tell the jury why. If I thought it was alright to take young boys to Europe, on "vacation," and ply them with alcohol before spending the night in the same room with them I would tell the jury why. I don't have an "aversion" to religion, God, or Catholics, I have an "aversion" to "men of God" who sexually abuse innocent children, and to their enablers within the hierarchy of the "Church" who moved these criminals from location to location, allowing and facilitating even MORE sexual abuse of innocent children! And I have an "aversion" to Catholic apologists, like you, who blame the children for being assaulted by Catholic priests and who are willing to say anything in defense of these monsters... er, "men of God." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-75259500382523206092015-03-06T16:38:50.418-05:002015-03-06T16:38:50.418-05:00But, you never responded to how you would defend y...But, you never responded to how you would defend yourself (ignoring your bad decision to ignore your own attorney's advice, aside) against claims of minor abuse, with no evidence, from a decade or three ago? How would you defend yourself against such an accusation? Can you respond, directly, to a question, and also leave your aversion to religion, especially God and Catholics, out of it (are you OK with Allah and Imam's, though)?Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-72290909444902314792015-03-06T16:16:37.234-05:002015-03-06T16:16:37.234-05:00"Billy" is a proven liar (documented, ir..."Billy" is a proven liar (documented, irrefutable), regardless of the guilt or innocence of any of those men he accused. <br /><br />Why do you keep infusing your comments with religious undertones- what one does as a vocation or occupation has no real bearing on his/her behavior.<br /><br />You are a two-faced hypocrite because your only interest is in persecuting Catholics, and their priests. Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-24579077648806682172015-03-06T15:54:48.380-05:002015-03-06T15:54:48.380-05:00Where is the catholic lynch mob that we heard from...Where is the catholic lynch mob that we heard from during the Engelhardt, Shero and Lynn trials ? You know the ones that called Billy a liar and the ones who said the jurors back then were corrupt. <br /><br />Here is the man who sent your saintly Fr. Lynn to prison. Here is the man who calls him a monster. If Pasternak can be accused of being a corrupt juror back then why are we not still hearing those same words today ? Is it because he is a witness to help one of those monsters today ?<br /><br />You can call me anti-Catholic but what you can't call me is two-faced or hypocrite.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-49969862576775090342015-03-06T15:44:45.507-05:002015-03-06T15:44:45.507-05:00Liars are miscreants, and who except for you is ev...Liars are miscreants, and who except for you is even mentioning God, or priests? It's about the lack of evidence, and nothing more, for me. But, apparently, for you, it is really more about God, men of God, Gods spokesmen- especially His Catholic priests, than anything having to do with real victims of abuse, and real-world predators. You know, like from where and whom the majority of abuse happens - from Daddy (are you a Daddy?), brothers, uncles, cousins, teachers, doctors, counselors, pastors, rabbis, imams, Hollywood elite, the gay subculture, the ice cream guy. <br /><br />Getting the picture, bigot? Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-28481567187511464072015-03-06T15:19:39.071-05:002015-03-06T15:19:39.071-05:00No wonder this "man of God" refused to t...No wonder this "man of God" refused to take the stand! Taking someone's child to Europe and buying alcohol for them... sleeping in the same bed with children... What kind of "man of God" does these things? It's too bad the jury did not get to hear this Catholic priest attempt to explain away these things! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-36526473808708282692015-03-06T15:13:02.814-05:002015-03-06T15:13:02.814-05:00He did testify last year's trial and it backfi...He did testify last year's trial and it backfired on him. Prosecutors are uncaring pros who know how to get you put away for life. They don't care for the truth only to win a case and do everything possible, even lie, to make it happen. He is better off not testifying as why help prosecutors convict you? Let them sweat while jury deliberates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-78217957229737433252015-03-06T15:11:24.264-05:002015-03-06T15:11:24.264-05:00Only in the twisted world of Catholic apologists i...Only in the twisted world of Catholic apologists is the child victim of sexual abuse a "miscreant" and the adult who committed the sexual abuse some sort of "saintly hero" pretending to be "God's spokesman" on Earth! How about letting YOUR child spend the night alone in bed with this "man of God?" My guess is that you would come up with a million reasons why this would NEVER be done with your child... but it is perfectly fine for it to be done with other peoples children. But, then again, maybe you would allow it. God will protect the innocent children, right? Just like "He" protected all of the other innocent children who were sexually abused by these pedophile Catholic priests. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-55245613708367002062015-03-06T14:58:05.443-05:002015-03-06T14:58:05.443-05:00How would I defend myself? Well, I would stand up...How would I defend myself? Well, I would stand up and shout my innocence every chance that I got. I would NOT turn down the opportunity to take the witness stand and let everyone in the world know that I did NOT commit these terrible crimes. I would immediately fire any lawyer who tried to discourage me from standing tall and telling the truth on the witness stand. I would NOT take little boys up to my room to share my bed or spend the night! What kind of monster takes other peoples children to their room and bed to "spend the night?" Enlightenment enough for you?! Perhaps you should tell your heroes (bogus "men of God") that it is NOT wise to sleep with children you meet while pretending to be morally and ethically superior because you work in a church. Need more enlightenment? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-18277273910490881382015-03-06T08:52:27.613-05:002015-03-06T08:52:27.613-05:00How do we know you won't be found to be judged...How do we know you won't be found to be judged as a pedophile predator, Anon 6Mar@7:35am? All that has to happen is somebody from the long past pop out of the woodwork and make an accusation against you. Who knows what skeletons you house in your self-righteous closets while you condemn others without any evidence? Maybe someone will take a shining to your house, car, whatever and see their pot of gold at the end of your rainbow. How would you defend yourself against a claim of minor abuse from a generation or more ago? Please, enlighten all the rest of us rubes. Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-6965372952188955912015-03-06T08:16:54.926-05:002015-03-06T08:16:54.926-05:00It looks like it. Going down there to find out.It looks like it. Going down there to find out.bigtrial.nethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188557653424544411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-10072777582450855842015-03-06T07:35:13.093-05:002015-03-06T07:35:13.093-05:00I do not mind at all that I will be measured by th...I do not mind at all that I will be measured by the measure in which I measure. That is as it should be. The main difference is that when measured, I will NOT be found to be a monster masquerading as a "man of God" who sexually abuses children while pretending to be "God's spokesman" with higher ethical and moral standards than others. I also will not be found to be one of this "man of God's" supervisors who quietly moved him from place to place, refusing to remove this criminal from the "Church," thus allowing him to abuse even more innocent children. Men of God? Don't make me laugh! Higher ethical and moral standards??? Right... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-54415601966226445092015-03-06T06:30:59.464-05:002015-03-06T06:30:59.464-05:00Will court be open today?Will court be open today?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-38246784422001439252015-03-05T15:31:23.627-05:002015-03-05T15:31:23.627-05:00Actually, there was not, and there still isn't...Actually, there was not, and there still isn't any evidence. Lets not get carried away with our antiCatholic emotions here, dear Anons. <br /><br />You may find yourselves counting buttons (or weaving baskets and doing laundry)after some miscreant accuses you of some untoward sexual behavior a generation or two from now- Jaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-61979693677719272112015-03-05T13:49:23.040-05:002015-03-05T13:49:23.040-05:00but the accuser said that he watched Father Andy u...but the accuser said that he watched Father Andy unbutton ALL the buttons.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-73453320237865076932015-03-05T13:45:30.287-05:002015-03-05T13:45:30.287-05:00What's the point of when you wore it or not. T...What's the point of when you wore it or not. This kid came in within one button of how many buttons that are on a cassock. I have been a catholic for many years and I could not tell you to save my life on how many buttons there are. This seminarian doubts even those who wore cassocks knew how many buttons there were.<br /><br />You have a seminarian right here tell everyone the top buttons had to be sewn on frequently. That tells me this kid could have been right on how many buttons were on McCormick cassock.<br /><br />This is even more evidence this kid was abused. Trying to take himself out of the situation he knew was about to happen to him. Counting buttons, holes in ceiling tiles, some victims are known to sing or hum their favorite song. Anything to take their mind away from the abuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-88571364146093624642015-03-05T13:06:59.055-05:002015-03-05T13:06:59.055-05:00Yes, I was a seminarian from 1960 to 1965. As we ...Yes, I was a seminarian from 1960 to 1965. As we used to say, a CASSOCK covered a multitude of shins. It was a versatile garment. But, nowhere did I ever see anyone buttoning all those buttons when putting it on or taking it off. We'd put it one the morning, go to Mass, eat breakfast, and take it off during morning study, put it back on to go to class, remove it prior to exercise, put it back on to walk to our rooms, take it off again for evening study, put it back on for supper, remove it to play ping pong or whatever, put it back on for night prayers and then remove it before going to bed. <br /><br />The top buttons got most of the wear and tear so we had to sew those on frequently. Not so (pun intended) for the other buttons. I doubt that any seminarian knew exactly how many buttons there were on their cassocks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-53875982618416850262015-03-05T12:55:08.831-05:002015-03-05T12:55:08.831-05:00The fellow who said he wore a cossack for five yea...The fellow who said he wore a cossack for five years is not a priest. Otherwise, he would still be wearing a cossack even if only occasionally. More than likely he was a seminarian at one point and left the seminary. I checked with my uncle who is a priest and he said that this person accurately described how a cossack is put on and taken off: only the top buttons are used. The fact that Anonymous 12:34 believes that cathlic priests are the largest group in history to abuse children <br />, contrary to fact, shows that he or she is an irrational bigot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-41436682358076191582015-03-05T12:34:32.679-05:002015-03-05T12:34:32.679-05:00I would have agreed with you, seriously I would ha...I would have agreed with you, seriously I would have agreed. But your gums kept flapping and made this into a debate over someone's sexuality.<br /><br />Then you made it a feel sorry for me statement because you wear a white collar.<br /><br />Father, and I don't say that with all the respect you think you deserve. The catholic Clergy is the largest group of organized individuals not only in the world but in history who has sexually abused children. Your group makes the boy scout leaders who abused children as angels.<br /><br />We know how much the Catholic Church hates homosexuals but what are you as a priest who I guess still says mass going to do when your pope tells your clergy that they must accept homosexuals into church. I would love to see the face on a ass like you when you tell everyone to give the sign of peace and you must watch two guys or girls kiss each other smack on the lips and hold hands right it front of you.<br /><br />The writing is on the wall padreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-21946956243820092762015-03-05T12:26:38.983-05:002015-03-05T12:26:38.983-05:00Wow is that an interesting point. Any other cassoc...Wow is that an interesting point. Any other cassock wearers care to comment on this?bigtrial.nethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188557653424544411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-28149139855397135652015-03-05T12:06:15.705-05:002015-03-05T12:06:15.705-05:00Interesting comments. Here's another one. If...Interesting comments. Here's another one. If you'll recollect, the accuser stated that he was mesmerized by the 30 or some buttons on the priest's cassock and then watched as he unbuttoned all of them after which he was transfixed by the priests colored underwear. This statement - in and of itself - does not pass the red face test, and here's why:<br /><br />I wore a cassock for 5 years and can tell you that one NEVER unbuttons all the buttons to remove it. All one has to do is to unbutton the top 10 buttons or so and then step out of it. The procedure was reversed when putting the cassock back on. The only time that a cassock would be completely unbuttoned was when it was purchased new or returned from the cleaners. That's it, and I'd stake my reputation on it.<br /><br />If this priest's passions were inflamed to the point where he wanted to have oral sex with the accused, don't you think he would have removed the cassock in the most expeditions fashion rather than fumbling with 33 odd buttons?? Hardly.<br /><br />I think this kid's a brazen liar as is his grandfather who would probably like to blame someone for his grandson's sexual orientation. When in doubt, look for a roman collar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com