tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post6859965624628195654..comments2023-10-22T09:32:13.417-04:00Comments on Big Trial | Philadelphia Trial Blog: Mom's Calendars Undermine Billy Doe's StoryAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04116104602505815614noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-38011541741645751702013-03-14T17:41:16.590-04:002013-03-14T17:41:16.590-04:00Thank you, Dennis. Your thoughts are much appreci...Thank you, Dennis. Your thoughts are much appreciated. I think I recall that the individual in California was found not guilty because the jury felt he had a right to seek revenge for the horrendous crime that society had no other remedy for. That was a sad case and I do hope that individual is finding meaning in the not guilty verdict. I haven't heard if they've yet charged the priest with perjury.SarahTX2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13127925134697324637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-26978925876185892992013-03-14T17:25:27.265-04:002013-03-14T17:25:27.265-04:00Nice try, Justone, I have zero affiliation with SN...Nice try, Justone, I have zero affiliation with SNAP. Try again. Eventually you might just hit upon a fact. Also try reading what the Prime Minister herself said about the need for a Royal Commission. In fact, you can see videos of the Prime Minister saying it. It was prompted by the number of suicides of children raped by Catholic priests. I will not give you the links. It is up to you to decide whether you're able to read mainstream reporting. <br /><br />I've read Mr. Boult's articles. They do not in any way represent the majority view in Australia. He's pushing the same Catholic persecution that you are. You can't imagine people siding with children or seeking to protect children because your church does not do that. So you suppose they must be trying to persecute the Catholic Church. <br /><br />The truth is that the Catholic Church persecutes itself. The damage is done from within. Outsiders can't even touch what the Catholic Church does to itself with its degradation of women and defilement of children and its financial frauds and inquisitions. I only want that mess of an organization to leave children alone and get out of the way of people trying to honor the dignity of children. I completely get it that you will never be on board with that. And that's okay. This movement is raging along, and your church is going to be battered into leaving children alone. <br /><br />We're not quitting the fight anytime soon, and certainly not because of the myth of Catholic persecution. Your Church is going to be forced to leave children alone, and you will end up going along with that. Already, one of your two Popes is unable to leave the Vatican for fear of prosecution. We're making progress. I understand how frustrating that must be for you. But one day we will hear Catholics advocating for children. And you're going to feel terribly left out.SarahTX2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13127925134697324637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-61912730136090610972013-03-13T13:37:06.661-04:002013-03-13T13:37:06.661-04:00This is the first time I am visiting this site. I...This is the first time I am visiting this site. I was just given the web address. Very interesting. I happen to be a parishioner of St. Jerome's and a former secretary at the rectory. I worked there during this so-called "rape". So many untruths. There is no possible way that any rape could have accurred. Too many people around the church before and after the masses. Where was the parent? It is dark out at 6:15am. Altar servers must be there before 6:15am to get ready. Did his mother just drop him off? Then let him walk home after Mass? If she picked him up, didn't she get worried that he did not come out right away? Those altar servers are out the door asap. I had two sons that served. I was there at all their Masses. Believe me, I would have been in that church calling for my son if the time was too long. And if I found anything inapproperate there would be no need for a trail. I my oppinion, this kid has never had to pay for any mistakes he has done in his life. Just because your father is a cop is not a "get out of jail" card. Father Engelhardt is an innocent man. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-65845493529871610072013-03-12T20:06:13.086-04:002013-03-12T20:06:13.086-04:00"You never can take away memories"
How ... "You never can take away memories"<br /><br />How funny that you mention that, as "repressed memory" is exactly what is touted to skirt SOL's in civil cases. St. Seraphimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12565781328123135017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-60654798896861415182013-03-12T17:52:49.402-04:002013-03-12T17:52:49.402-04:00Dennis as the person who asked the question you re...Dennis as the person who asked the question you referred to,, let me say I asked a question that's all I did. I have no knowledge either way. I accepted Ralph's answer.<br />I personally know that the Church has created sweet heart "unions" like SNAP and others to head off any connection of victims to organize ourselves.<br /> They did that for their benefit and as per usual with them, it's screw the victims. (The Church is nothing if not consistent there.)<br />So I am, after much personal pain, not surprised at anything that has or could happen around this issue.<br />Each side here have logical reasoning behind their positions. The jury came to it's conclusions. This is one conundrum and it may take years or never for the truth to come out completely.<br />So like 9/11 or the Kennedy asasinations is everyone willing to spend years debating what's true and what isn't here? I'm not. <br />You are? Fine; but meanwhile real victims everywhere are never seen or discussed. I don't like that very much. Too many hurt and un heard people.<br />And given my last 11 years worth of dealing with the SNAP fraud. I do admit I find almost every cause celebre case as compared to every non celebre case, very troubling. Particularly when it throws ALL victims cases into question. Something the right wing of the Church as been attempting to arrange since the get go.<br />Let me leave it there.jim robertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11021237370520134041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-74518571561667318302013-03-12T17:19:36.941-04:002013-03-12T17:19:36.941-04:00The Devil, my ass. Keep your imaginary friends and...The Devil, my ass. Keep your imaginary friends and enemies out of this Josie. Dennis has no need to be ganged up on by you jim robertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11021237370520134041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-37433380161449642532013-03-12T17:13:42.745-04:002013-03-12T17:13:42.745-04:00Dennis can say what ever he wants. Do you pay his ...Dennis can say what ever he wants. Do you pay his bills?<br /> I have no idea what the real truth here is. I do know however a guilty verdict was reached by a jury.<br />I also know that the Church has been squealing like a stuck pig about "false allegations" since they were caught with our pants down.<br />I'm a compensated victim from L.A. Calif. <br />Neither you nor Dennis nor I know precisely what is true here but insulting people is stupid. So let's back off a bit shall we? jim robertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11021237370520134041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-21061653961715577562013-03-11T20:32:01.715-04:002013-03-11T20:32:01.715-04:00Thanks for continuing to show your true colors. Ha...Thanks for continuing to show your true colors. Have been following this story from the beginning and the one thing you still believe is that is an editorial page. This is a public site where one is able to write freely and base it on their thoughts and feelings. If you want a critiqued article where the story is twisted to not offend the agencies or government offices of this city then there are a few people on this site who could point you in the right direction. Until then this is a free forum and Ralph's ability to uncover the details of this injustice yes could one day could lead to greater things. And who knows it may be warranted for him. Keep up the good work Ralph.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-68856581998929514962013-03-11T20:14:10.884-04:002013-03-11T20:14:10.884-04:00It is sad to see that an individual I HAD respect ...It is sad to see that an individual I HAD respect for has proven time after time his reporting skills have diminished and his main concern was to gain a cult following such as Dave Pierre or Bill Donahue of the Catholic League. His reporting has been so one sided it has been asked of him recently not only by this individual but by others if he or the Beasley Law Firm that sponsors him are in bed with the catholic church.<br /><br />Instead of using what he was taught in reporter 101, asking the questions who, what, where, when and why, this reporter continues to feel it is important to leave his personal views. In my opinion a way to maintain his cult following, or a way to continue to stoke the fire. Could it be to continue to receive a paycheck ?, could it be a way to hope to move on to bigger and better things ? I don't have the answers to those questions only he does. <br /><br />I too have questions for this reporter, like why he only seems to defend a priest in this case when clearly there was another defendant that is not a priest but a lay person ? Has this reporter ever sat down with an abuse survivor outside this case or any other case to fully understand first hand what a victim goes through ? Is he afraid what he might learn ? These are questions at present he has failed to answer.<br /><br />This individual does know this reporter along with people who choose to be his followers instead of leaders have failed to see the big picture. The help individuals who have been abused in the past, no matter if it was 10, 20 or 30 years ago may still need help, and this reporter who has the power of the pen behind him fails to assist with the prevention of this horror from ever happening again.<br /><br />And I know one other thing, by the grace of God this will all end one day, and this reporter maybe in the unemployment line or move onto something else, and his followers will comment on another subject they know nothing about. But survivors, their family, and their friends will always remember this time in their life. Because that saying "You never can take away memories" is so true.<br /><br />Dennis Ecker <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-20148596114945731452013-03-11T16:58:17.628-04:002013-03-11T16:58:17.628-04:00Nice observation by a commenter over on TMR:
&quo...Nice observation by a commenter over on TMR:<br /><br />"In the matter of ongoing “documentation” and so on – which is supposed to be proving all sorts of stuff – perhaps a few such instances could be named. By my count, there is: the Dutch Abuse Report – which has not been heard from again and the text of which has never been made public; the lawsuit brought in the International Criminal Court in the Hague which has never seen the light of day and apparently has been rejected by that Court; the LA documents, which apparently have fizzled and for good reason; the Magdalene Laundries claims which have now been demonstrated as inaccurate and untruthful; and the Philadelphia trials, which are being thoroughly dissected and demonstrated to be as questionable as the Grand Jury presentation which preceded them.<br /><br />I don’t count unsubstantiated assertions by self-declared victims as “documentation” until they are supported by demonstrable evidence." <br /><br />Philadelphia, its DA's office and the presiding judge in the latest kangaroo court should feel proud to make it onto that list of smoke, mirrors and BS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-40119216340439305542013-03-11T16:56:55.672-04:002013-03-11T16:56:55.672-04:00ralph@bigtrial.netralph@bigtrial.netbigtrial.nethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188557653424544411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-4836654793380020332013-03-11T14:45:36.972-04:002013-03-11T14:45:36.972-04:00Ralph - could you please confirm your e-mail addre...Ralph - could you please confirm your e-mail address. For some reason, I keep getting e-mail failure messages back when I try to send you something.<br /><br />Thanks - JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-76935469553360981582013-03-11T11:53:59.532-04:002013-03-11T11:53:59.532-04:00Anonymous 5:04 a.m.: If you know anything about Ra...Anonymous 5:04 a.m.: If you know anything about Ralph's career, you would certainly not say he is biased. His critical coverage of the Philadelphia archdiocese some 20 years ago made him the target of a vicious campaign by the archdiocese's high-powered PR firm. He sued his employer, The Philadelphia Inquirer, over its reaction to his articles, which the paper refused to publish. He nearly lost his career.<br /><br />There is too much to go over in one post, but a good overview is available at http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=798. To put it succinctly, few people would ever accuse Ralph and the Archdiocese of Philadelphia of being in cahoots.<br /><br />With respect to mom's calendar, you say omissions don't mean guilt. But for some people, including on this blog, because Bernard Shero did not declare his innocence in a suicide note, he must have raped Billy Doe. And how is Billy being punished for his criminal actions? Thus far, he has escaped prosecution for his drug dealing.<br /><br />Lastly, why is it OK that two innocent men were convicted because, in your words, "Innocent people go to jail all the time"? Should Engelhardt's and Shero's attorneys, family and supporters just give up because "the judicial system fails us all the time"? There is no justification for a guilty verdict simply because someone needed to be used to make an example. You are entitled to your opinion but show your true colors when you advocate for the blind conviction of accused simply because of their vocation or because others have escaped prosecution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-61273980252602096542013-03-11T10:13:52.382-04:002013-03-11T10:13:52.382-04:00Here are some now famous quotes:
"I forget&q...Here are some now famous quotes:<br /><br />"I forget"<br />"I was scared"<br />"I was retarded"<br />"I was high on heroin"<br />"I went to the nurse a lot"<br />"I thought I was going to get into trouble"<br />"I was high on numerous drugs and semi-comatose"<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-76611787733795136362013-03-11T08:36:15.312-04:002013-03-11T08:36:15.312-04:00Would you like to be wrongly accused and convicted...Would you like to be wrongly accused and convicted of a crime by a career criminal who has repeatedly beat the law because of who his dad (cop) and uncle (VP of the FOP) are in this city? <br /><br />Fr. Engelhardt, specifically, was convicted because he is a priest. That and the fact he was stationed at St. Jeromes in 1998-99. Those are the only two reasons. <br /><br />The prosecution produced zero evidence, besides Billy's tall tales, that in any way incriminated this priest of anything other than wearing a collar. If I missed any evidence over the past 3 months please enlighten me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-73152915125502505082013-03-11T07:12:14.169-04:002013-03-11T07:12:14.169-04:00Here we go again- billy is telling the truth becau...Here we go again- billy is telling the truth because he can not remember anything. If you read all the reports billy remembers much of his childhood but what you do not see is that he has been coached or conspired to forget this meeting or that meeting (although he remembers getting in the car). Have you looked at the criminal history for this individual? Probation to probation and continuances so the DAs office can keep this person on the street to continue to walk with a get out of jail free card again. It's not what you do, it's who you know and who you or your relatives know. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-3682002929497402682013-03-11T05:04:57.432-04:002013-03-11T05:04:57.432-04:00Seems like the reporter "ralph" is unden...Seems like the reporter "ralph" is undeniably biased. He has decided that Billy is lying. <br /><br />1.Calendar-I could care less what his mother's calendar said! Omissions don't mean guilt. <br />The reporter mentioned that in Feb. Of the next year, the mother wrote that her son "switched" with another alter boy. I'm pretty sure, there are other times when Billy switched(due to sickness, or whatever), that his mom didn't write down. Its not like she wrote "switch" all the time, but just left out the date in question.<br /><br />2. The 6:15/6:30 mix up is MINOR, I forget times alot. <br /><br />3. The churches records are hand written, not etched in stone. Why just assume Billy lied, and not that someone changed the records. The defense should have found church members, that could testify to the times Avery lead Mass. <br /><br /><br />4.The friendly Priest. He claims his friend "could never do such a thing", but this is nothing more than a character witness. How credible is this friend anyway? You would be surprised how many "friends" of convicted criminals say, the person convicted "seemed like a nice person, that would never commit a crime. Often, those are the ones that do.<br /><br />5. If Billy is a menace, and does heroine, etc, wouldn't that be evidence as to why he can't remember things in exact detail?!! Number one fault in our system, is that the accused are judged based on their "backgrounds". Funny thing is, people with deep mental issues, often commit horrendous crimes, as a first offense. People on here are outraged that Billy sells drugs, but atleast he has a rap sheet. He is being "outed" and "paying for his criminal actions.<br /><br /> What's the real issue here? Why is the reporter, so "outraged" with the outcome. Innocent people go to jail all the time. Innocent victims, get raped, and their accusers get away. Schools are being shot up. Why such an outcry about two old men, accused of molestation? The judicial system FAILS us all the time, why is this so shocking? <br /><br />THE FACT IS, there ARE pedophiles everywhere. But the church is supposed to be a place of refuge and safe haven. The Priests, are held accountable because of "who they are in society". A priest is supposed to be a shepard, and gives guidance. Someone you run to, not run away from. So if the state is making an example out of these priests, so be it!<br /><br />@All the pedophiles who lurk on this page, I hope this very example served its purpose! Scared straight!<br /><br />Stop writing articles, defending "convicted molesters"! It makes you look suspect. I have never seen a news report, so one-sided! Holding a priest, in such high esteem, is the main reason why there are not A WHOLE LOT more priests in "hot water". There are innocent ones who fight the good fight, but a whole lot more who just pretend.<br /><br />In my book, a Priest and a Crack-head have the same amount of protection under the law. I don't judge them based off "who they are", or are "perceived to be". Perception is a kin to blurried vision.<br /><br />BOTTOM Line, the law has spoken. Sad to say, but Father Avery and friends, along with Sandusky and all the other accused are lawfully CONVICTED "pervs". If they are guilty, God so help them. Help the people that protect their actions also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-92168245250811577242013-03-10T19:17:11.388-04:002013-03-10T19:17:11.388-04:00Remember I did not ask the question. I'm sure ...Remember I did not ask the question. I'm sure the new readers would be interested in reading your answer as well. Don't be shy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-15536485171952509372013-03-10T18:07:13.119-04:002013-03-10T18:07:13.119-04:00Dennis - have you been drinking?Dennis - have you been drinking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-6348755457842126652013-03-10T16:50:21.239-04:002013-03-10T16:50:21.239-04:00I'm with a group of individuals right now and ...I'm with a group of individuals right now and one feel I should ask a fair question, and I thought it would be good to show character.<br /><br />If all this evidence being proclaimed here is true, and ALL the evidence against Engelhardt and Shero is false, and if our justice system allowed. How many of you would be willing to take their spot ?<br /><br />Ralph ?<br /><br />Josie ?<br /><br />chippy111 ?<br /><br />or how about you justone1618 ? or would you hope they think you are to old to be a danger ?<br /><br />Now let me point out that one of individuals I am with and who asked that question happens to be a clergy member.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-22634258495359477342013-03-10T14:00:00.789-04:002013-03-10T14:00:00.789-04:00Hi anonymous.
Good points - I'm with you. Bef...Hi anonymous.<br />Good points - I'm with you. Before writing, however, I'm going to wait for Ralph's subsequent posts that may describe the DA's treatment of Billy's previous crimes (one of which is still pending) and anything else he may uncover.<br /><br />Of course, there's always the remote possibility that the trial judge (who officiated at the whole trial - from voir dire juror questioning to the present moment) will set aside the verdict at the upcoming sentencing hearing.<br /><br />Let's hope so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-48746906448198229122013-03-10T13:30:46.765-04:002013-03-10T13:30:46.765-04:00I would do the jig with him to make sure these ind...I would do the jig with him to make sure these individuals or any others like them never look at a child the way they did.<br /><br />Open your eyes. Take note. It is always the SAME individuals that post here. With the same thought these two people are innocent. They are innocent because of that, they are innocent because of this.Why ? Because this is the only platform pro pedophile. If you climb out of that hole your living in and read what the public is really saying it might open your eyes. You folks are the minority. I have read here Engelhardt and Shero had some of the best representation money could buy. But RALPH himself has questioned why some evidence was not used. Has anyone ever thought the evidence was not used because the defense team did not think it would help their clients. Then RALPH tells me I'm wasting his time when I tell him to only print facts. I'm surprised he did not say I was pressuring him also. That is the same response I received from CHAPUT when questioned regarding other clergy members still under investigation. (How many of you knew there are more out there ?) If RALPH wants to investigate a story let him do that one. If he wants to print his non-objective views then it should be called the Ralph Cipriano editorial page. But for now this case is over, the gavel has fallen, The next time we will ever here about this case is on April 18th when these men will face what their futures will be, and if that so-called great representation wants to file an appeal so be it. Now to justone1618, to the quote you posted. I believe you believe that statement 100%. The kool-Aid you have been drinking has turned to ice in your veins. You and the person who made that statement have no heart. The statement only says one thing, if they got away with it back then it should be forgotten. I would love to know what you feel the age is when a ABUSER is no longer dangerous. Do I go to the Bishop Accountability site look at the abusers ages and come up with a mean number ?<br /><br />With the exceptions of a few, individuals have been acting like this is a Facebook Page to talk back and forth with your friends. Let me inform you I AM NOT YOUR FRIEND. I come here to see if anyone has anything to say either positive or negative. These could of, would of, should of statements although sad are at times funny and sometimes when i need that laugh I come here, and when I read comments like justone1618 makes, don't think I will sit by and not BLAST you for it.<br /><br />So everyone keep writing and i will keep reading. Because this is a great to use as an example for any other victim out there who wants to come forward, They can see it won't be an easy fight. But also understand its a battle than can be won.<br /><br />If you wish to make individuals accountable contact your local police department. Do not contact any church, organization or archdiocese. (You are not alone)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-23529115730344196362013-03-10T12:38:57.289-04:002013-03-10T12:38:57.289-04:00I am very disappointed with the state of PA and ou...I am very disappointed with the state of PA and our judicial system. I have followed the trial of Charles Engelhardt and the discrepancies seem to be many. This should disturb any law abiding citizen as it shows how flawed “justice” can be. It seems as though Charles Engelhardt was not “Innocent until proven guilty”. More like he was used by the system to make a statement...the statement being that innocent or guilty Mr. Engelhardt was going to be the “scapegoat” to show the rest of the country, and quite possibly the world, that PA was not going to tolerate the abuse and the coverup of abuse of its children any more. I believe the state is embarrassed and determined to correct the many mistakes as well as lay the groundwork to prevent such atrocities in the future. While I applaud such an awakening, I also think extreme caution should be exercised. Innocent people should not have to pay for the crimes of others. I knew nothing of either the accuser or the accused but it was quite obvious there was more than “reasonable doubt” with this case of one man vs. another man’s word. This was before I read the article on March 7th pointing out the documentation from at least two different sources, which I found appalling. I believe an innocent man, sits in a correctional facility awaiting a sentence...for a man of his age, determining on the number of years, quite possibly...a death sentence. If the state of PA feels a need to be an example to the rest of the country...then let them show how they can protect the innocent as well as aggressively pursue the guilty. Let’s face it, being an accuser should not come with an automatic guarantee that their story should prevail particularly without credible evidence and if not credible evidence...at least a consistent, infallible recollection of details. I, for one, am all for aggressively pursuing the guilty but this does not have to be carried out at the expense of the innocent. When things of this magnitude happen the innocent, and their families, become victims as well. I say to all the good people of PA...please...stand up and take notice...make a plea to the lawmakers of your state to give this Mr. Charles Engelhardt a fair trial...a trial that he should have been entitled to in the first place. Let this judgment stand and it sets a dangerous precedence for many “hidden agendas” of those who have nothing to lose but much to gain. <br /><br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-50694496293377702742013-03-10T10:12:46.780-04:002013-03-10T10:12:46.780-04:00Dennis, you are dancing with the devil. You need p...Dennis, you are dancing with the devil. You need prayers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12314012467023147844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-63170428207787591842013-03-09T22:21:36.509-05:002013-03-09T22:21:36.509-05:00Hi Archie & SarahTX2,
Good question: (relativ...Hi Archie & SarahTX2,<br /><br />Good question: (relative to the defense not using Billy's mother's calendar and the funeral register).<br /><br />The defense probably believed that an attentive, unbiased jury would have no difficulty acquitting their clients based upon the radically differing abuse accounts related to the A/D, to the detective, Billy's own testimony before the Grand Jury, the 'bell fable', Billy's mother's and his teachers testimonies, report cards, medical reports, and so forth. <br /><br />If so, they seriously miscalculated - at least with this jury. In retrospect, every option should have been placed 'on the table'.<br /><br />Even Jay - - an alternate juror excused (with a complementary piece of pizza) before the actual deliberations - - - blogged in the Philadelphia Inquirer after the verdict on January 30th that the case resounded with reasonable doubt. While this blog has since been removed (?), here are some of the excerpted comments from 2 of the posts that I saved:<br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - <br />http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20130130_Priest_trial_jury_deliberates_for_third_day.html?i=2&&jCount=3&#comments<br /><br />“ My husband was an alternate juror on this case. He spoke to me about it when he was released from duty. He is shocked that they were found guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. He said there were way too many holes in the prosecution's case for there not to be doubt. - Jilljay<br /><br />……The burden was on the prosecution to prove their case, and I don't feel that they did. The victim gave 3 different locations for Shero. That is enough doubt. Period<br /><br />…..the alleged victim said that Shero's attack happened in the classroom, then a parking lot behind a dumpster, and finally in Pennypack park. Shero might be guilty, but there is most definitely doubt when the victim changed his story 3 times”. - Jilljay<br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br />Unfortunately, McGovern's staff also screwed up by not serving Billy's brother properly - probably just an honest mistake on a secretary's part. But on this point, it's hard to believe why this judge - when requested - didn't give the defense a short time extension to admit Billy's brother's testimony, considering its importance to the two accused men who would likely go to jail for the rest of their natural lives if convicted. <br /><br />This seems to have been a reasonable and vital request totally consistent with the pursuit of justice - - n'est-ce pas?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com