tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post4101022251237433425..comments2023-10-22T09:32:13.417-04:00Comments on Big Trial | Philadelphia Trial Blog: Penn State Confidential: What Mike McQueary Heard And Saw, Part 2Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04116104602505815614noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-75945096695005827362017-09-11T06:56:25.597-04:002017-09-11T06:56:25.597-04:00Pendergrast's Sandusky book may need another c...Pendergrast's Sandusky book may need another chapter based on CNN's new article on a Nov. 23, 2011, Mike McQueary police report in which he claimed Paterno told him that McQueary's was the "second complaint" about Sandusky that Paterno had heard. <br /><br />According to a CNN source, Sandusky prosecutors suppressed that and even threatened the Sandusky defense so they wouldn't bring it up at trial. Sandusky lawyers apparently complied with hearsay objections whenever McQueary tried to testify about what Paterno had told him. That effort may have resulted in perjury by Mike McQueary and possibly even suborning perjury by prosecutors. <br /><br />At the Curley-Schultz preliminary hearing in Dec. 2011, McQueary was asked by prosecutor Bruce Beemer "What did he [Paterno] tell you?"<br /><br />McQueary said nothing about Paterno saying that this "was the second complaint" about Sandusky as he stated in the Nov. 2011 police report.<br /><br />Mike McQueary swore "to tell the whole truth," and he clearly did not according to the police report.<br /><br />You have to wonder why the prosecutor would ask McQueary what Paterno told him when they didn't want Paterno's "second complaint" comment to be mentioned. Perhaps they had instructed McQueary not to mention it, which would have been suborning perjury.<br /><br />Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-66837918212514041092017-08-29T01:15:25.237-04:002017-08-29T01:15:25.237-04:00The Baldwin and Old Main story can't be corrob...The Baldwin and Old Main story can't be corroborated because Paterno is dead. Witnesses to the other claims are alive and corroborated to ESPN McQueary's claim of being sexually abused as a child and his gambling on college football games. McQueary's father allegedly paid off his gambling debts so his father could also confirm that. <br /><br />What we know is that Mike McQueary told his players that he was sexually abused as a child. We don't know the details but lawyers for Sandusky, Penn State, Spanier, Curley and Schultz certainly should have questioned him for the details. If he lied to his players, that undermines his credibility. If he was abused by a coach and/or in a shower, that would certainly color his perceptions when he witnessed a coach with a boy in a shower.<br /><br />The gambling addiction was essentially verified because McQueary never denied it, and ESPN contacted him prior to releasing the story. ESPN didn't include the sexting allegations in their story but had planned to. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-14893839660257683922017-08-27T02:37:03.081-04:002017-08-27T02:37:03.081-04:00I put his abuse story in the same bin as his story...I put his abuse story in the same bin as his story about Joe Paterno warning him about Baldwin and Old Main. Probably a lie from what appears to be a person with a lot of pathological issues. Gambling, sexting, making up stories. Impossible to verify anything that he has said.Greg Vernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10566899608592908874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-89004518092639897432017-08-26T02:17:08.408-04:002017-08-26T02:17:08.408-04:00The only way MM's story makes sense is that a ...The only way MM's story makes sense is that a family member messed around with him. But what happened? Did he get spanked on his bare butt for being a bad boy?<br />Greg Vernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10566899608592908874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-45285806774783835512017-08-24T21:12:01.980-04:002017-08-24T21:12:01.980-04:00The context is known. In a 2014 article, "The...The context is known. In a 2014 article, "The Whistleblower's Last Stand," ESPN reported <br /><br />"Finally, McQueary confided in his players something he hoped would make them understand how he'd reacted at the time. He told them he could relate to the fear and helplessness felt by the boy in the shower because he too was sexually abused as a boy." <br /><br />ESPN's source was "two players who were there and others familiar with the 40-minute session."<br /><br />In the same article, ESPN reported on MM's gambling on college football games, even one he played in. MM never publicly denied those reports. I certainly would have if someone accused me of being a gambling addict when I was not. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-70158200148493217612017-08-24T19:50:10.874-04:002017-08-24T19:50:10.874-04:00MM's statement of being abused (what kind of a...MM's statement of being abused (what kind of abuse??) is unconfirmed hearsay. The context is unknown. It may have been just senseless babbling. No one ever followed up on it. One thing is certain, though...associating a sound with an activity is learned behavior (conditioned response). The sound is a cue which causes dopamine release in the brain resulting in a physiological response. Greg Vernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10566899608592908874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-78355546999351958102017-08-24T02:24:10.116-04:002017-08-24T02:24:10.116-04:00The science of interconnected and intertwined memo...The science of interconnected and intertwined memories is maturing (especially when the same neurons are involved in multiple events), but this discussion should not be about the CREB enzyme or neuron ion channels, but about the chicanery of Frank Fina, the OAG (including present members), and the Corbett cabal in using the McQuerry story as a puppet to take down Spanier and Paterno.Greg Vernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10566899608592908874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-46046771271500176702017-08-23T16:37:31.007-04:002017-08-23T16:37:31.007-04:00I think it's obvious that the prosecutors rehe...I think it's obvious that the prosecutors rehearsed or coached MM and his father. They even coached Paterno but he didn't live to testify at Sandusky's trial. After Curley and Schultz were charged, it was clear to MM that his father and Dr. Dranov could be charged if MM didn't say what the prosecution wanted him to say. <br /><br />A lot about MM's story does not make sense. Why make a special trip to the locker room on a Friday night to put new sneakers in your locker when you could just wear the new sneakers to school on Monday and wear the old ones home? <br /><br />Why would hearing 2 or 3 slapping sounds through the locker room door immediately bring to mind sexual intercourse? Did he have a flashback to his own child sex abuse? Maybe that was why he was so upset.<br /><br />Why would you believe a man and woman were having sex in the locker room but barge in anyway just to put sneakers in a locker? Why not come back later after viewing the recruiting tapes MM said he came to see? <br /><br />Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-67686712810668345632017-08-23T12:30:52.824-04:002017-08-23T12:30:52.824-04:00MM ..........articulate, please. Daddy McQuerry&#...MM ..........articulate, please. Daddy McQuerry's going to........anal sex with the first question seems odd. Can't someone do a locker room anime recreation of the incident (with a audiology forensic component) tracing MM's footsteps in the locker room. On the way to his locker MM would have to look over his left shoulder and JS would have to be in the far end of the shower to be seen in the mirror. However, to have an arm pull the boy back in without being seen JS would have to be in the first shower. MM's story is.............Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06844675916442311667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-28185196334024670522017-08-23T09:00:16.888-04:002017-08-23T09:00:16.888-04:00I think you are missing Johns testimony about what...I think you are missing Johns testimony about what Mike told him minutes are the shower incident<br />Moments after the 2001 incident Mike McQueary called home and told his father Twice he saw nothing more than Jerry Sandusky in a shower with a boy and did not witness anything sexual.<br />John McQueary in his testimony began by recounting the phone call he received from his son moments after witnessing Sandusky and a child in the Lasch building shower room in 2001. His wife answered the phone and immediately handed him the phone, saying “It’s Mike. There’s something wrong.”<br />“I just saw something, I saw Coach Sandusky in the shower with a young boy,” John recalled his son saying.<br />“I asked him if he had seen anal sex and I got more descriptive. ‘Did you see anything you could verify’ — penetration or maybe I used the word sodomy,” he said. According to his father, Mike McQueary responded, “No, I didn’t actually see that” John McQueary says he asked again, “So you didn’t witness penetration or anything else you can verify?” His son again said no.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-63979914537525045922017-08-23T05:17:01.757-04:002017-08-23T05:17:01.757-04:00I assume that the judge(s) forbade the defense fro...I assume that the judge(s) forbade the defense from asking about Mike McQueary's own child sexual abuse, his gambling addiction and his sexting. It seems to me that McQueary telling his players that he was a victim of child sexual abuse was very relevant for the jury to know. Either he lied to his players or withheld a material fact from the jury. <br /><br />Perhaps McQueary's father and Dr. Dranov knew of Mike's child abuse, which would explain why Mike being so upset in 2001 didn't bother them more. Perhaps Mike had episodes like that before. Maybe it was Mike who was raped in a shower by a coach when he was a boy.<br /><br />Two of Coach Franklin's Vanderbilt football players had their rape conviction thrown out when the judge found out a male juror had been a victim of child sex abuse and not revealed it. The juror said he didn't feel he was a victim because he wanted the sex. Seems like the star witness in a child sex abuse case not revealing he too was a child sex abuse victim was even more relevant. Tim Bertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534135581401662154noreply@blogger.com