tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post5226192970863798583..comments2023-10-22T09:32:13.417-04:00Comments on Big Trial | Philadelphia Trial Blog: The D.A. Throws A Temper Tantrum; Lynn Still In JailAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04116104602505815614noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-32334932946968220882014-01-09T08:30:26.358-05:002014-01-09T08:30:26.358-05:00Take a deep breath, anonymous, and we'll run d...Take a deep breath, anonymous, and we'll run down how many things you got wrong.<br /><br />The three judges agreed to reverse the conviction, didn't they? Isn't that what we call unanimous?<br /><br />I didn't say Lynn was innocent all along, I said you can sure construct a logical argument that by the time Seth Williams came to office, Lynn couldn't be charged with EWOC. The 2005 grand jury said the original EWOC law didn't apply to him and he couldn't be charged. Then the prior DA lead a statewide campaign to change the law so that it would apply in the future to supervisors like Lynn. And the state legislature followed suit by changing the law.<br /><br />So Seth was trying to re-invent the wheel by basically charging him under the meaning of the amended EWOC law, which said the law applied to supervisors. It was only a matter of time before some appeals judge called him on it. You can't charge somebody after the fact with a new law. A reversal was, in retrospect, easily foreseeable. Ask Lynne Abraham and the 2005 grand jury, which basically said the same thing the Superior Court opinion did reversing Lynn's sentence.<br /><br />I haven' said anything about the DA being anti-Catholic. He is a Catholic! So are most of the DA's detectives who investigated in 2005 and 2011, as well as probably most grand jurors. Any anti-Catholic stuff didn't come from me. But the DA's recent rantings about Lynn using the worldwide forces of the Catholic church to escape to the Vatican border on that, don't they?<br /><br />There was nothing controversial about that Catholic League ad. I have printed the entire text on this website. It was merely a contrasting view, one that could have appeared on an op-ed page. Given the 160 times the Inky ran stories trumpeting that fatally-flawed 2011 grand jury report as gospel, in my opinion, the Inky was required to run that ad simply for reasons of fair play, and airing both sides of an argument. It is not unrealistic and ludicrous, contrary to what you say, to say that banning the ad was against free speech. That's exactly what happened.<br />bigtrial.nethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188557653424544411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-88267377337930606172014-01-09T08:28:31.848-05:002014-01-09T08:28:31.848-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.bigtrial.nethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188557653424544411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-30993061481022352014-01-08T10:40:23.850-05:002014-01-08T10:40:23.850-05:00Ralph,
The sheer volume of errors in this article...Ralph,<br /><br />The sheer volume of errors in this article are immense as well. Though I am unsure if they are intentional, I would encourage you to better verify your information before including it in your reports.<br /><br />To begin, the appellate courts ruling was not unanimous, as the three justices involved in the original appeal did not unanimously agree on the issue at hand, though the appeal was accepted. Painting this verdict as a clear sign that Lynn was innocent all along is ludicrous. If three justices in the appellate process are unable to unanimously agree on an issue, it is clear that issue is legally uncertain. Thus, the prosecutions actions against Lynn in this case weren't entirely out of line, in fact at this point as the appeal process continues, they're still in question.<br /><br />Also, the Philadelphia Inquirer did not "a take a stand against the 1st Amendment" as you put it. Newspapers are widely recognized as private entities and thus are under no obligation to accept any advertisement. Newspapers regularly deny many advertisements to simply avoid being controversial. It is unrealistic and ludicrous to declare these rejections as a stand against the 1st Amendment because there is not enough space in their articles to contain all of the ad requests they receive every day. They pick and choose advertisements to feature, just like all other private companies across this entire country.<br /><br />What baffles me the most is the conception brought forth on this website that the District Attorneys' office is fundamentally anti-Catholic. The DA's office is a public organization composed of a vast array of people with vast variety of different beliefs. Suggesting that any organization so designed is fundamentally against a cause is incorrect. Suggesting that Seth Williams, a Catholic himself, is anti-Catholic is ludicrous. The District Attorneys' office has not other cause except for being anti-crime. If a perceived crime exists, they prosecute it. It really is as simple as that. In this case, one of the worst crimes in existence was committed, supported overwhelmingly by the evidence, and thus began the prosecution of a variety of offenders. Lynn was responsible for the aiding of this process, and so he too was prosecuted.<br /><br />The thing that baffles me the most is the Catholic communities support of offenders in this issue. The crimes committed in this case were despicable, and you would figure that this organization would applaud the removal of these criminals from an otherwise pure organization. If an embezzler is caught stealing money from his company, or sexually harassing other employees, companies usually applaud the prosecution of those individual. <br /><br />The bottom line is that Lynn's case is not yet over, and is nowhere near as clear cut as you are presenting it. The legal issues are still in contest, as they have always been in contest. The only truth clear so far is that Lynn, whether legally guilty or not, has committed a grievous wrong on innocent children, and strangely the Catholic church stands by his side, and continues to pay his bills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-31807263298266999152014-01-05T11:23:47.915-05:002014-01-05T11:23:47.915-05:00Unless you're a leftist rag with an agenda, ri...Unless you're a leftist rag with an agenda, right Sarah?<br /><br />http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/times-nixes-anti-islam-ad-runs-anti-catholic-ad/<br /><br />And, the racism and hatred coming out of the leftist media, same media that pummels the Catholic Church, such as MSNBC, is exploding it's hate all over itself these days, isn't it? <br /><br />It's a shame (and a sham) that the leftists can't live by their own rules, isn't it?JAEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-42809194097267636132014-01-05T01:18:35.360-05:002014-01-05T01:18:35.360-05:00anonymous @12:47.
.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....anonymous @12:47.<br /><br />.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-88315462288722658452014-01-04T21:59:39.416-05:002014-01-04T21:59:39.416-05:00JAE, newspapers don't do that. They don't...JAE, newspapers don't do that. They don't take large payments in return for publishing anyone's editorial. They pay reporters and columnists and they write their own editorials. It has nothing to do with opposition to any mantra. It has nothing to do with religion. They simply don't take that kind of money in return for publishing other people's screeds. So, when Bill Donohue publicly tries to force newspapers to violate professional ethics, that tells us that Bill Donohue is not an ethical man.<br /><br />Ralph says that Bill is right on this one. Really? Bill is right to use large sums of money (tax-exempt at that) to try to force newspapers to print his screeds, and not even in an honest form but disguised as advertisements? Hold up. You are kidding, Ralph.<br /><br />Many people have asked how many members the Catholic League has because many people have wondered how many people do the Catholic League and Bill Donohue represent. This is tax-exempt money. It's an organization with the word "Catholic" in it. It's possible that it could be just one man or just 10 people who are conducting these raids on newspapers and networks and state legislatures in the name of the Catholic faith. In what capacity does Bill Donohue speak for the American Catholic Church?<br /><br />I couldn't care less what the names of the members are. I only wonder how many are in the group. The fixation with naming names is pretty much unique to this very volatile blog. One gets the sense that naming names here at bigtrial.net is tantamount to putting an "X" on people's foreheads or marking them as targets. Maybe that's because there's so much mob stuff going on in Philadelphia. It pretty much belittles the blog, though, and reduces its credibility. <br /><br />Regarding credibility, certainly, if Ralph supports Bill Donohue's actions against newspapers, then credibility under any definition of journalism is all but lost. SarahTX2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13127925134697324637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-18201913234097083902014-01-04T17:58:48.486-05:002014-01-04T17:58:48.486-05:00Sarah blogs from the state of Texas and is familia...Sarah blogs from the state of Texas and is familiar with Philadelphia through reading the Inquirer online. She is not an alleged victim. Most of the time, she is incorrect about the facts and one of the regular Catholic haters. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12314012467023147844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-42657328039630818762014-01-04T12:47:08.201-05:002014-01-04T12:47:08.201-05:00You list Avery's "motivations" but y...You list Avery's "motivations" but you fail to mention the one thing (above all others) that should have "movitated" him as a "man of God," TRUTH! Here is a moral leader of his religious sect, a supposed example to the "flock," who placed his hand on the Bible (the word of God!) and willfully LIED on the witness stand, according to you and others. A "man of God" that is so lacking in the courage of his convictions that he willingly lied under oath. Or a "man of God" who told the truth under oath and is lying now... take your pick. You may make the same old apologists excuses ("...the expected testimony of the fellow he SUPPOSEDLY [caps mine] groped...") for Avery and "Msr." Lynn but there is no denying that their actions were NOT those of "men of God." I hate to break it to you and other apologists, but "men of God" do not swear on the Bible and then lie under oath, and they certainly do NOT destroy the souls of innocent children by repeatedly exposing them to priests known to be pedophiles and sexual abusers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-3110883423152410192014-01-04T11:22:16.921-05:002014-01-04T11:22:16.921-05:00Hey Laughing Anonymous @8:49.
Avery was motivated...Hey Laughing Anonymous @8:49.<br /><br />Avery was motivated both by Sarmina's 'prior bad acts' ruling and by the expected testimony of the fellow he supposedly groped to accept a lesser sentence than the one that Max Mary (Sarmina) would have undoubtedly dished out had the jury found him guilty along with his co-joined co-defendants. It's really that simple.<br /><br />In search of his 'historic conviction', the DA was after a bigger fish (Monsignor Lynn) and used Avery's coerced plea to snare him. <br /><br />Regrettably, Father Engelhardt and Bernie Shero were caught in the same net, but their appeals are expected to be heard this summer.<br /><br />In the meantime, perhaps a disenchanted member of the DA's office will come forward with the unvarnished truth.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-8261975851090305792014-01-04T08:49:04.244-05:002014-01-04T08:49:04.244-05:00HAHAHAHAHA! Avery is not collateral damage. He i...HAHAHAHAHA! Avery is not collateral damage. He is a "man of God" who either lied when he pled guilty (placed his hand on the BIBLE and flat out lied!) or he is lying now. He is not a victim. He is just a self-admitted liar who poses as a "man of God" yet abandons his faith and his God to lie (under oath or afterwards) instead of standing tall (on thr witness stand) and proclaiming his innocence. Check out the standard apologists excuse... ("Even if there were Avery abuses...") It is standard operating procedure here. "Sure Msr. Lynn facilitated the abuse of more innocent children by shuffling sexually abusive priests around so they could prey on even more innocent souls... but he is not a criminal!" One thing is certain. He is no "man of God," either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-89306154875908197572014-01-04T08:16:29.814-05:002014-01-04T08:16:29.814-05:00The persecutors always act confused when pounded b...The persecutors always act confused when pounded by facts, how 'quaint'. <br /><br />How did Donohue 'try to force' the PI to publish his editorial - did he hold a gun to someone's head? An 'offer" is just that. Nothing was disguised, it was offered as an editorial, and when rejected out of sheer bias, he then offered to pay for it's publication as an advertisement. You swing between it being and 'offer' and 'trying to force", which is it?<br /><br />What's 'dishonest' to you? Apparently, railroading innocent men under the guise of cleansing the Catholic Church of an infestation of pedophiles isn't dishonest to you. Therefore, you have no credibility.<br /><br />Your opinion is biased towards the persecution of the Catholic Church. How the Church or any other tax exempt organization uses it's funds to support their causes is their and their contributors business. Your opinion on that matter is not sought. <br /><br />You can be sure if there is a question of how any Catholic or conservative 501(c)(3) organization is using their funds, this administrations IRS will be quite vigilant in pursuing all those 'wrongs'. The bigots need not worry their empty little heads about any of it. JAEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-7476587935130470282014-01-03T21:43:03.414-05:002014-01-03T21:43:03.414-05:00Someone posts as anonymous and criticizes another ...Someone posts as anonymous and criticizes another for doing the same. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-58260508715335862882014-01-03T21:23:53.364-05:002014-01-03T21:23:53.364-05:00anonymous@3:23
I would not consider Avery a '...anonymous@3:23<br /><br />I would not consider Avery a 'co-conspirator'. Even if there were Avery abuses earlier than the one alleged by the victim who testified at Lynn's trial, not even this DA could hope to prosecute them as the SOL's had long since lapsed. No leverage - nothing to squelch!<br /><br />Avery's more collateral damage - another victim, if you would - harmed by an unscrupulous and ambitious DA who deliberately accepted at face value the incompletely investigated and inconsistent testimony from a jailed junkie.<br /><br />Couple this with a predisposed jury pool - and a clearly biased and heavy handed judge - and you have the formula for the consummate travesties that played in Sarmina's courtroom, and later in Ceisler's.<br /><br />Take a read through Ralph's earlier post with Mike Wallace's picture on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-31156737152557544442014-01-03T21:02:05.427-05:002014-01-03T21:02:05.427-05:00Not sure what you mean, but I guess you're say...Not sure what you mean, but I guess you're saying you support trying to force newspapers to print your group's message. Your group offered $58,000 to a newspaper to print an editorial disguised as an advertisement. And it did the same with several other newspapers. It seems dishonest to me and also an improper use of tax-exempt money. Just my opinion though. SarahTX2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13127925134697324637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-7868746834564501732014-01-03T21:01:32.241-05:002014-01-03T21:01:32.241-05:00I don't care if you're a Cardinal, if you ...I don't care if you're a Cardinal, if you approve of convicting men without evidence or according to long-standing and absolutely required statutes (aka constitutional), you are either a bigot or a criminal - or support either one or both of those entities. Perhaps your ideology is suppressing your theology these days, who knows? Your words, as pertains to 'Catholics' and religious, are dripping with contempt. <br /><br />Just tell me which priests were proven, with evidence and/or via a civilized legal process, beyond a reasonable doubt, of sexually abusing an adolescent and I'll consider your claims as worthy of consideration.<br /><br />Anything short of that is your own axe-grinding for whatever nefarious reason(s) you may have, and nothing more, nothing less. JAEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-13617429761926853912014-01-03T17:59:42.793-05:002014-01-03T17:59:42.793-05:00"Criminal enablers" like Msr. Lynn and t..."Criminal enablers" like Msr. Lynn and the Bishops he helped move sexually abusive priests around so they could prey on more innocent children? I AM a Catholic... I don't hate Catholics. I have nothing for those claiming to be "men of God" who participated in this sordid affair. As I said, these ARE NOT "men of God" doing "God's work." They are just men who helped their religious organization hide the crimes of sexually abusive priests, nothing more... nothing less!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-83669284660412113312014-01-03T16:52:39.385-05:002014-01-03T16:52:39.385-05:00His birth name is none of your business, why would...His birth name is none of your business, why would you care? <br /><br />Respond to his Words, and worry less about his name. You cowards are all so tough when you have the leftist pop culture, including the corrupt media, doing your bidding in the press and in our courtrooms. You are not so tough one-on-one, particularly when the truth is revealed. Then, you look to attack your opponents on a personal level. You fabricate lies about your opposition, call them disgusting names and attempt to vilify them in public, including their families, and at their workplace, and then you ask why no one will submit their real names. <br /><br />You are welcome to keep consuming your own Kool-Aid, just don't ask anyone else to join you.<br /><br />This isn't your friendly kumbaya meeting where we all smoke weed, down mushrooms and hold hands to 'overcome' our troubles in our parents basement. This is a battle for the heart and soul of our nation as expressed in our legal-political system. What you distort in law, civics, ethics and morals to persecute your hated enemy, the Catholic Church, you force upon our nation as precedent. That may be fine with you so long as one of your 'guys' is at the helm. Now, use your 'expanded consciousness' to imagine it isn't one of your guys at the helm... <br /><br />JAEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-89820287085544526442014-01-03T15:53:25.343-05:002014-01-03T15:53:25.343-05:00Ersatz Judge Sarmina, politically ambitious Willia...Ersatz Judge Sarmina, politically ambitious Williams and the tendentious Inquirer have poisoned the Well of Justice in Philadelphia. They need to be held accountable for their willfully duplicitous, dishonorable, mendacious and perfidious prostitution of the public trust assigned to them. That Sarmina continues to occupy the position of Judge in Philadelphia is a reproach and disgrace to the Commonwealth's system of justice in general and a censure and abasement of every and all individual judges and Justices in Pennsylvania. Her continued presence on the Bench is a toxic pall that hangs over them all and calls into question their own veracity and credibility so long as long as they allow Sarmina continued occupancy of her current office.TedKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01575350682006521139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-63924415098330265752014-01-03T15:23:14.914-05:002014-01-03T15:23:14.914-05:00I believe Edward Avery should be included as a &qu...I believe Edward Avery should be included as a "co-conspirator" with the group mentioned above. The DA coerced him into a plea for an assault of Danny Gallagher that never happened with the promise of a brief prison term and most likely a promise of no further prosecutions for "legitimate abuse victims" from his past that were apparently coming forward. Amazing how Avery had so many alleged prior victims that have mysteriously vanished, never to have their day in court.<br /><br />Avery's guilty plea deal (2 1/2 to 5 for a known predator/and a defrocked priest) which was reached a few days before his trial was to start alongside Lynn, was later recanted in the trial of Engelhardt and Shero, set the stage for the wrongful convictions of Lynn (there was no assault of Danny Gallagher, the lone subject of Lynn's prosecution) and eventually, Fr Engelhardt and Bernard Shero. <br /><br />Great scam by a well connected con artist, drug addict and drug dealer. Those men had no chance at a fair trial once they coerced Avery into that plea. <br /><br />Glad someone added Blessington to the list, he and Sorenson were absolutely livid when his attempt to include those decades ago archived irrelevant box of allegations were not permitted to be presented in the Engelhardt and Shero trial But Ceisler made sure Cipoletti and Manos had full reign to present everything else to those jurors, truthful or not, so that Engelhardt and Shero did not walk out of that courtroom as "free men"......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-53856024653676400412014-01-03T15:18:15.133-05:002014-01-03T15:18:15.133-05:00Even worse of all, a former DA named Lynne Abraham...Even worse of all, a former DA named Lynne Abraham concluded that the 1972 EWOC law did not apply to Msgr Lynn. New DA Seth Williams chose to ignore this legal freebie given by the former DA to instigate his own war against the Archdiocese to secure two convictions, against Lynn and Brennan and Shero and Englehardt based on the fabrications of sexual abuse uttered by Billy Doe.<br /><br />No excuse for a DA pretender to ignore such wise advice from a previous DA. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12578737874188115992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-63334840177610211932014-01-03T15:15:08.598-05:002014-01-03T15:15:08.598-05:00Right on, JAE. People like SNAPpy Sarah (Sarah Kle...Right on, JAE. People like SNAPpy Sarah (Sarah Kleman, that is) and the not so judicious Judy Jones (another with SNAP reactions) are anti-Catholic bigots, pure and simple. They are indeed becoming more desperate as the truth about so many false accusations, wrongful convictions and travesties of justice begins to emerge, thus corroding their reason for being. Bill Donohue and the Catholic League are doing a fantastic job of exposing anti-Catholic prejudice wherever they see it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-20497403752826600722014-01-03T15:11:09.417-05:002014-01-03T15:11:09.417-05:00Here we see another proud member of the cult.
I a...Here we see another proud member of the cult.<br /><br />I assume his birth name is anonymous.<br /><br />How would your leader Bill Donahue feel about your shame in letting us know who you are ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-16206246467990369122014-01-03T15:10:54.081-05:002014-01-03T15:10:54.081-05:00That would be Bergstrom to the rescue of Shero and...That would be Bergstrom to the rescue of Shero and Englehardt should a willing wealthy Catholic be made aware of the particulars of the case in a crystal clear way so that he or she will be able to conclude that it is money well spent to spring out two innocent people put in jail by Billy Doe's daily fabrications of unbelievable fiction. And the Archdiocese could be persuaded to drop some coin in this endeavor once convinced of th eir innocence and lack of funds to pursue the appeal. Once funds secured, then Bergstrom's team will handle the appeals.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12578737874188115992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-27226554803477088192014-01-03T14:59:21.028-05:002014-01-03T14:59:21.028-05:00You have no evidence that any crime was committed ...You have no evidence that any crime was committed against any minor by a Catholic priest in this case. If you do, let's see it. Otherwise, it's all a fairytale. For the wrongly maligned and real abuse victims, it's a nightmare. <br /><br />Bigots and their criminal enablers need to understand definitions (eg. pedophile) and the rule of law and how an understanding of both are required for a civil society.<br /><br />You are witness to the uncivil society that your anti-Catholic hatred spawned. I hope you don't succumb to it yourself, someday. You are a bigot, nothing more, nothing less. JAEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-79507029271717200052014-01-03T14:40:41.621-05:002014-01-03T14:40:41.621-05:00Add to the list the 24 jurors from the 2 cases who...Add to the list the 24 jurors from the 2 cases who sent innocent men to prison<br /><br />Would any of them break the pact they made during deliberations. Why should they still be able to hide behind juror #1, juror #2, etc.?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com