tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post2706652544542957503..comments2023-10-22T09:32:13.417-04:00Comments on Big Trial | Philadelphia Trial Blog: "The Defense Calls Monsignor Lynn"Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04116104602505815614noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-59978500340348165672012-05-28T10:53:36.721-04:002012-05-28T10:53:36.721-04:00It is totally ludicrous to think that Lynn could h...It is totally ludicrous to think that Lynn could have been placed in a position to counsel victims, whether trained or not, because of his alleged collaboration, or at least silence consent, in the coverups. Being in the position to counsel victims, Lynn could find out more about the victims case and not work in that victims's best interest (not that he would, anyway)! Maybe that is why SNAP tells Survivors to go to the police, FIRST, rather than to a Church counselor!JeannieGuzmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04822849361330012598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-54541760491352663632012-05-28T10:46:18.935-04:002012-05-28T10:46:18.935-04:00PatO: Maybe Lynn is doing a WWCBD! *What would C...PatO: Maybe Lynn is doing a WWCBD! *What would Cardinal Bevilacqua do?"JeannieGuzmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04822849361330012598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-50201848926981834352012-05-27T21:31:46.214-04:002012-05-27T21:31:46.214-04:00Keeping a copy will not always absolve the copy ke...Keeping a copy will not always absolve the copy keeper.Marshahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08468271047649290090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-34458788152786928502012-05-24T22:40:49.423-04:002012-05-24T22:40:49.423-04:00Lynn is like the mafia lieutenant who gets an orde...Lynn is like the mafia lieutenant who gets an order from the Don of the mafia, and sends out a hit man to kill another mobster. The difference is that Lynn sent out known child rapists to rape innocent children, and Lynn is blaming his despicable, demonic dead boss.PatOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12461865437824551724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-37050262868811355012012-05-24T21:59:56.903-04:002012-05-24T21:59:56.903-04:00"You can be sure in every diocese in the US t..."You can be sure in every diocese in the US they are cleaning out files and creating ways to cover their ass."<br><br>There is always a Malloy who keeps a copy, or data resides somewhere on a hard drive or network. It is more difficult than you think to make something truly disappear forever.Pirates are essentially correct: two can keep a secret if one is dead. Remember these memos and files are copied or forwarded to general counsel, outside law firms, experts, and internally. A cover up effort always looks worse than the actual documents destroyed. Most judges will issue a spoliation charge, ie, adverse inference, if there are documents that existed that were destroyed to prevent discovery.kopridehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033734864815154844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-59085454655533698412012-05-24T21:54:08.934-04:002012-05-24T21:54:08.934-04:00"If Avery has been brought up in Lynn testimo..."If Avery has been brought up in Lynn testimony why can't he be subpoenaed to testify?? kopride?"<br><br>The defense could subpoena Avery to testify but he has already pleaded guilty to conspiring with Lynn so the Prosecution could then use the plea if the defense opened the door. If Lynn testifies that he investigated the Avery allegations and concluded that they were false, then the Prosecution could put him on for rebuttal.<br><br>But it sounds like Lynn, on direct, is simply saying that he was just following orders. Unless the prosecution calls Avery to testify that Lynn advised him that Lynn was making the decisions rather than Bevilacqua, its probably not true rebuttal. And remember the prosecution cannot cross examine Lynn about Avery and then call a rebuttal witness to impeach him on what would be a collateral or credibility witness. <br><br>Subpoena is merely the tool that allows a party to compel a witness to appear at trial. The trial judge still has to rule on whether it is relevant and admissible in rebuttal. Rebuttal witness have to rebut a contention advanced by the defendant during their case in chief. If the defense contends that Avery did not abuse anyone, or that the accusers were lying, then it is rebuttal. If it is offered for a new contention by the prosecution, or a contention that could have been advanced during the prosecution case, then it is not true rebuttal and should have been offered during the prosecution's case. Also the 403 standard still applies to rebuttal and that is the probative value of the evidence has to outweigh the danger of undue prejudice. So at this stage, there are multiple hurdles: it has to be truly rebuttal evidence, it has to be relevant and admissible on a rebuttal issue; and it must be more probative than prejudicial.Listen, I was flabbergasted that they put Lynn on the stand to testify so nothing will surprise me now, but I would be shocked if Lynn opened the door to an appearance by Avery.kopridehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033734864815154844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-47019710563918118522012-05-24T19:50:18.592-04:002012-05-24T19:50:18.592-04:00You can be sure in every diocese in the US they ar...You can be sure in every diocese in the US they are cleaning out files and creating ways to cover their ass.Ronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15795287213227474911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-22150769835752719452012-05-24T13:41:53.614-04:002012-05-24T13:41:53.614-04:00If Avery has been brought up in Lynn testimony why...If Avery has been brought up in Lynn testimony why can't he be subpoenaed to testify?? kopride?friscoeddiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01739379257797112867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-46193878536649524322012-05-24T12:41:51.863-04:002012-05-24T12:41:51.863-04:00Crazy risk putting Lynn on the stand. There is way...Crazy risk putting Lynn on the stand. There is way too much bad stuff out there with the other cases. On the prosecution side, there is a risk in cross examining him too harshly. Nobody likes rats, but if you see a kid torturing a rat, you start to root for the rat. The same thing happens if you are too tough on a respectful witness. The ADA has to be careful to respectfully dismantle his Nuremberg defense without being so aggressive that the jury feels bad for Lynn. Knowing Bergstrom, Lynn has been through a lot of mock cross examination and is prepared to deal with very aggressive questions. We will see how folks thinks he does. The blame it on the Cardinal defense after so much grand jury testimony where he did not implicate the Cardinal might not fly.kopridehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033734864815154844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-56551455771891463172012-05-24T11:39:49.429-04:002012-05-24T11:39:49.429-04:00In this post, it is evident that Lynn believed his...In this post, it is evident that Lynn believed his actions were correct.This is evidence of how the structure and culture of the catholic leadership enables corruption.Erinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02873593983431589723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-59999529502600930532012-05-24T06:13:23.543-04:002012-05-24T06:13:23.543-04:00The Church thinks they are above the law. They ca...The Church thinks they are above the law. They can operate in our cities, influence politics, claim to be protecting children, yet they don't have to obey our laws?Kay Ebelinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13753284586265566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-62359616952043320442012-05-24T01:31:51.563-04:002012-05-24T01:31:51.563-04:00funny ... who were the sexual abuse victims that L...funny ... who were the sexual abuse victims that Lynn aided and counseled for 12 years? what was he doing aiding and counseling victims if he was not trained? or did he think he was trained since he also thought he was helping them? did the cardinal tell him to provide counseling and aid to victims as well? for that matter why does the catholic church ever need to get advice from other professionals when the abuse, investigating and counseling of victims AND perpetrators are all provided under one roof by the same person and directed by "the man at the top" no matter his morals or ethics? certainly if Lynn counseled even one victim he would have know these victims lives and souls were forever affected? 12 years of helping to make a difference ... how was that working? wonder how many he would still be aiding and counseling if the GJ didn't happen? and finally ... counselling and aiding priest? what was that about? effective? painfully sad and frightening. When do Cullen and others go to trial?theotherPattihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00843902768006308824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-67288501025664726242012-05-24T00:50:48.580-04:002012-05-24T00:50:48.580-04:00They are just doing WWSD.They are just doing WWSD.PatOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12461865437824551724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-10862730739143125912012-05-24T00:04:13.102-04:002012-05-24T00:04:13.102-04:00If these ae truly followers of Jesus, they would c...If these ae truly followers of Jesus, they would confess to their sins, and take their punishment. That they are placing the blame on others only compounds their sins. I am incredulous that they are no acknowledging their failings. <br>They SUCK!Marshahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08468271047649290090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-56724346013565747032012-05-23T23:35:23.924-04:002012-05-23T23:35:23.924-04:00I would like these questions to be put to Lynn &q...I would like these questions to be put to Lynn <br> " Did you tell the cardinal that Avery and a teacher at the same parish molested the same 10 year old? What did the cardinal say and what did he tell you to do? and whatever answer .."Did you do it?"friscoeddiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01739379257797112867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-80797027451660244052012-05-23T23:05:08.842-04:002012-05-23T23:05:08.842-04:00Bevilacqua isn't on trial here. Lynn is. He ...Bevilacqua isn't on trial here. Lynn is. He knew children were being brutalized. He had the option of calling police, confronting the Cardinal, and/or quitting his job. But that's just not who he is. No person in America has to commit crimes of omission or commission because our employer asks us to. The person that Lynn is is a person who needs to go to prison for endangering children. Bevilacqua may be a bigger criminal, but that's neither here nor there. Bevilacqua is not on trial here.SarahTX2http://www.blogger.com/profile/13127925134697324637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-16998514232195265142012-05-23T22:47:10.489-04:002012-05-23T22:47:10.489-04:00Cross started about 2:45. No, prior witnesses had ...Cross started about 2:45. No, prior witnesses had said the note was Molloy's handwriting.Ralph Ciprianohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12188557653424544411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-86470530923690073992012-05-23T22:36:48.961-04:002012-05-23T22:36:48.961-04:00Curious about what time the cross started today? A...Curious about what time the cross started today? And if it was late afternoon, wouldn't it have been better to keep the direct going until end of day so that any positives that came out of Lynn's testimony in direct would have been the only testimony to ring in the jurors' heads till morning?<br><br>Interesting that Lynn indentifies the note handwritings as the cardinal and not Molloy.<br><br>Hadn't any prior witness already confirmed that?TopCathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14096010487792855947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-44268730863677384732012-05-23T22:28:46.239-04:002012-05-23T22:28:46.239-04:00Excellent reporting Ralph, thank you. I have been ...Excellent reporting Ralph, thank you. I have been following the blog since the beginning.TopCathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14096010487792855947noreply@blogger.com