tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post1458979736081564693..comments2023-10-22T09:32:13.417-04:00Comments on Big Trial | Philadelphia Trial Blog: Five Teachers Say "Billy Doe" Was A Happy Kid At St. Jerome's, And Not Some Dark, Depressed LonerAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04116104602505815614noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-49164204187459905882013-01-23T14:34:07.704-05:002013-01-23T14:34:07.704-05:00kopride,
Thank you very much for explaining this....kopride,<br /><br />Thank you very much for explaining this.<br /><br />You, sir, are a gentleman!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-48983359683308041362013-01-23T13:33:38.497-05:002013-01-23T13:33:38.497-05:00@Joe. Actually, no. The prosecuter can object to c...@Joe. Actually, no. The prosecuter can object to cross examination of victims on issues related to credibility, which is the purview of the jury at the trial. A judge sitting at such a hearing merely determines whether there is sufficient evidence to make out the elements of the case essentially with the assumption that the jury will credit the testimony of the victim. For example, Sandusky waived his hearing entirely. In other words, the judge was merely following the law applicable to all defendants. There was no prejudice because the Defendants were priests. This accuser clearly has baggage and credibility issues, but that wouldn't give the judge a basis to toss it at the Preliminary Hearing stage. And most rape accusers in Philadelphia County have baggage. Criminals generally hang out with criminals and dirt bags. Child predators often look for kids with family, social, personality, or substance abuse problems. Despite being generally disgusted by the church's institutional handling of cases generally, I don't like this case. It seems Shero was targeted for accusations because he was the neighborhood weirdo and was socially retarded as well; and Engelhardt seems like an afterthought who had no real contact. But that's not uncommon in rape cases. He said/he said. kopridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033734864815154844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-77977798725415228462013-01-23T10:47:08.011-05:002013-01-23T10:47:08.011-05:00or maybe he was trying to deal with being raped by...or maybe he was trying to deal with being raped by "Christ on earth", which is what Catholic priests call themselves. Maybe that would be too much for a 10 year old to bear. Maybe that.neilallen76https://www.blogger.com/profile/04966954580793318142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-73761723762357162772013-01-23T10:45:15.898-05:002013-01-23T10:45:15.898-05:00and of course, Seth Williams is a devout Catholic,...and of course, Seth Williams is a devout Catholic, and is running for mayor, which is why he didn't go after Bishop Cistone and Bishop Cullen, two other professional pedophile protectors in the Catholic church who were involved in shredding evidence about 35 known pedophile priests back in 1994.<br /><br />From Seth's own bio page at http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/meetTheDA.html you can see that <br /><br />"Seth is also proud to serve on the boards of several community organizations, including the Catholic Social Services of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, ... St. Cyprian Catholic Church, and the St. Martin de Porres Foundation.<br /><br />Seth also removed the first grand jury report from the web site, since it revealed so many evil things about the Catholic church.neilallen76https://www.blogger.com/profile/04966954580793318142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-87184908478727667512013-01-23T10:40:59.675-05:002013-01-23T10:40:59.675-05:00All of the associated heartache, pain and expense ...All of the associated heartache, pain and expense could probably have been avoided if Avery, Englehardt and Shero been afforded the opportunity to confront Billy in a preliminary hearing. But the judge said no.<br /><br />Billy testified that he was smoking pot on a daily basis at 11 years of age when he was either in 5th or 6th grade. Then he 'graduated' to Percosets, Xanax, and hallucinogenics. But he didn't say when this transition took place - grade or high school. <br /><br />Five (5) grade school teachers testified that Billy was 'a good kid, a happy kid'. They 'never saw any problems with him'.....<br /><br />Don't you think that either his teachers (or for that matter - Billy's mother - a registered nurse) would have detected any signs of drug abuse were it actually present while Billy was in grade school?<br /><br />Billy's mom testified that Billy was ejected from Archbishop Ryan at 14 (his freshman year) for smoking pot and for carrying brass knuckles.<br /><br />I wonder if Billy got 'hooked' on prescription drugs and then on heroin while in high school and fabricated the whole abuse scenario as a convenient (and later - as a potentially lucrative) cover story. <br /><br />Or maybe he took one 'Magic Mushroom' too many.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-28052568788538977862013-01-23T10:36:23.110-05:002013-01-23T10:36:23.110-05:00And, kopride, remember that he is trying to sell b...And, kopride, remember that he is trying to sell books on his web site.neilallen76https://www.blogger.com/profile/04966954580793318142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-44912133531993013782013-01-23T10:26:01.584-05:002013-01-23T10:26:01.584-05:00Bombshell - the truth about the pro-pedophile-prie...Bombshell - the truth about the pro-pedophile-priest group "themediareport" and Dave Pierre above:<br /><br />TheMediaReport, and its owner, Dave Pierre, coughing sarcastically above, should have mentioned that he is trying to sell books at THEMEDIAREPORT website about how innocent these pedophile priests are, even after they plead guilty, multiple times, to child rape.<br /><br />On example is Fr Gordon Macrae, a convicted pedophile priest who Dave supports (and who recommends Dave's books). Macrae PLEADED GUILTY to sex with 3 children, and was also accused by at least another 7. Macrae is serving 30-60 years for raping another, but Dave will tell you how those 3 GUILTY pleas aren't an admission that he's a child rapist.<br /><br />The Catholic church admitted 4,392 substantiated, accused, child sex abusing priests in their own John Jay report of 2004, and no institution in history is even close to this number. Catholics like Dave will lie and say its as bad elsewhere, and that everyone is just Anti-Catholic, but it isn't true. People are anti-Catholic because Catholics are pro-pedophile, but Dave Pierre actually gets paid for it.<br /><br />The Catholic church is BY FAR the world's largest pedophile protection program. No one else is even close.<br /><br />Dave Pierre is literally a professionally paid pedophile priest protector.neilallen76https://www.blogger.com/profile/04966954580793318142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-66010216785946861182013-01-23T09:43:12.591-05:002013-01-23T09:43:12.591-05:00Semanticly, you are correct. Instead, you stated t...Semanticly, you are correct. Instead, you stated that Lynn Abraham had an anti -church agenda; and criticized the current DA, Williams, as being anti-catholic. You also criticized the judges assigned to the case including Hughes and Samarina as being anti catholic or prejudiced against the church. Now, you don't know any of these people and have no legal training, but most of your posts about the Philadelphia trials have been virtually porn for the church apologists who want to believe that these cases are nothing more than church-hating prosecutors, biased judges, and a vindictive press. And your mantra is the same no matter how overwhelming the guilt of the priest or culpability of bishops who enabled them, your Gordon "Free Mumia" MacCrae," being the best example. Oh, and your other constant is that any damaged victim is a money grubbing liar egged on by greedy Plaintiff's lawyers. While decrying stereotypes about your beloved church, you cast aspersions against everybody else in the system charged with investigating and prosecuting crime involving priests. The other comical part of you is that you call yourself a "journalist" and criticize other accredited journalists, but I haven't found any reputable newspaper or magazine where you've ever been published. From what I've seen of your writing and objectivity on this issue, you wouldn't even be qualified to write a fluff PR piece for The National Enquirer, or a "Bigfoot" article for the Weekly World News. Any objective person who looks at your site will have the same reaction. Pravda was more objective.kopridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033734864815154844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-39148174075442601592013-01-23T05:18:51.254-05:002013-01-23T05:18:51.254-05:00"This does blow the Media Reports mantra that..."This does blow the Media Reports mantra that no priest can get a fair trial in Philadelphia and that Priests automatically get convicted."<br /><br />You would be correct except for the fact that I have *never* said that at all. >>> http://www.themediareport.com/about/<br /><br />Please stop making things up about the site, kopride. Thank you.<br /><br />TheMediaReport.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07605908176445177281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-51384127728599943622013-01-23T04:04:02.759-05:002013-01-23T04:04:02.759-05:00If Chaput deserved the respect of being called ar...If Chaput deserved the respect of being called archbishop I would have called him by that. It was only out of kindness I even called him father. He is nothing more than a simple man. No better than you or me unless you give him that power to think he is. If you wish to call me a bully because I questioned your leader regarding the investigations of other clergy members and confronted him with a statement made from his own mouth then I'm a bully, and if you came to that conclusion by reading the posted e-mails you would be shocked to read the additional e-mails. Now as far as this case goes I want to say this on the record " as a survivor I know how the church operates and I try to maintain an open mind when it comes to these cases, if the charged are found guilty they should be punished, if it is found that individuals such as Billy Doe have lied then they too should be punished. In the end no matter what the outcome is you and I will be able to continue on with our lives. But the comment made by TheMediaReport or should I say the reporter for TheMediaReport only shows a lack of use of brain cells when making a comment on this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-26574815257243447182013-01-23T00:46:24.460-05:002013-01-23T00:46:24.460-05:00Mr. Ecker, you did make a constructive comment abo...Mr. Ecker, you did make a constructive comment about this being a terrific source of information on the trials. Thanks, Mr.RC! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12314012467023147844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-12533846001253583652013-01-23T00:42:00.817-05:002013-01-23T00:42:00.817-05:00Mr. Ecker, I think I would worry about my own ma...Mr. Ecker, I think I would worry about my own maturity if I was prone to whining like you do all the time. Also, why do you bully the kind and just Archbishop? (His correct title whether you like it or not-more immaturity shown calling him "Father"). Maybe I incorrectly assume you are an adult. <br />In any case, it seems to me that Media Report's "remark" is innocent enough-no harm intended to you or anyone else. The suspicion of most after the proceedings so far is that Billy Doe has concocted this story and wants money for it. What do you think?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12314012467023147844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-76998144233220015022013-01-23T00:08:02.684-05:002013-01-23T00:08:02.684-05:00Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There is...Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There is just not enough there, based upon the reports so far, to convict these defendants. This does blow the Media Reports mantra that no priest can get a fair trial in Philadelphia and that Priests automatically get convicted. When priests get convicted or plead guilty, the Media Report, I.e. , David Pierre, will claim that the judge or prosecutors broke the law, cheated, or railroaded the poor innocent priest. If the priest gets acquitted, it means that all priest prosecutions are bogus. Pierre can hear weeks of testimony about priest hierarchy lying, hiding evidence, transferring admitted pedophiles to other parishes, therapist shopping, and secret files, but none of that registers or is worth mentioning on his vanity blog. The LA Times uncovers reams of documents implicating bishops in a broad cover up, and he will claim media bias, but he will go to great lengths to explain outright confessions and guilty pleas.kopridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033734864815154844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-90771775770106452162013-01-22T21:29:45.499-05:002013-01-22T21:29:45.499-05:00Thanks, Ralph, for the report today. I've bee...Thanks, Ralph, for the report today. I've been looking forward to reading it all day!Archie Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13118480141793016031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-4326602351773287312013-01-22T21:15:14.139-05:002013-01-22T21:15:14.139-05:00It seems that individuals for TheMediaReport have ...It seems that individuals for TheMediaReport have no constructive comments to leave since this is the same response they left on a earlier blog. I believe he views these cases as a win or lose game and not keeping in mind that lives on both sides of the table are on the line. I am always very interested in reading what everyone has to say regarding this case, and this comment only shows the immaturity of this individual. I applaud Mr. Cipriano and other reporters who go out and do a great job in reporting this case, and hope if you know this individual you do not consider him a fellow journalist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8876661997317409023.post-51370693011545434932013-01-22T20:21:05.215-05:002013-01-22T20:21:05.215-05:00*cough* *cough*
(Sorry. Flu season.)*cough* *cough*<br /><br />(Sorry. Flu season.)TheMediaReport.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07605908176445177281noreply@blogger.com